# Butt Ugly Vehicles

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 21, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826 "2016-04-21T16:11:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/81 "2016-05-03T00:24:26Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Actually, vehicle weight has steadily increased since about 1980, while fuel economy and HP have improved. Cars have improved in nearly every way over the past 30-40 years.

Except for Nissan styling.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/82 "2016-05-03T00:46:40Z")

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Pontiac Vibe. Hands down.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/83 "2016-05-03T04:22:26Z")

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From the one-off prototype end of things, we have the [Sir Vival](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=447959).

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/84 "2016-05-03T04:23:39Z")

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[A functioning link to the Sir Vival](http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/meet-sir-vival-safety-car-future-wasnt)

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/85 "2016-05-03T05:05:03Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> From the one-off prototype end of things, we have the [Sir Vival](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=447959).

> [@Sunspace](#):
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> [A functioning link to the Sir Vival](http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/meet-sir-vival-safety-car-future-wasnt)

**Xema** mentioned the 1958 Sir Vival in post 29.

> [@Xema](#):
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> In the ugly car sweepstakes, one vehicle has the first 10 places forever locked up: [Sir Vival](http://oppositelock.kinja.com/introducing-the-1958-sir-vival-280679310).

It was ugly then, and it’s still ugly now.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/86 "2016-05-03T05:13:30Z")

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I haven’t seen a Plymouth Volare on the road since who knows when, and I’m not asking to see one, either. But I saw a rerun of the TV show _Fantasy Island_ recently and they had a modified one on it. They actually took a homely looking car and made it butt uglier.

Here’s a pic: [https://www.google.com/search?q=fantasy+island+car&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQuOb5kL3MAhVBKWMKHTiTD9sQ\_AUIBygB&biw=1024&bih=672#imgrc=6\_5vaqr23mnxCM%3A](https://www.google.com/search?q=fantasy+island+car&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQuOb5kL3MAhVBKWMKHTiTD9sQ_AUIBygB&biw=1024&bih=672#imgrc=6_5vaqr23mnxCM%3A)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/87 "2016-05-03T05:29:31Z")

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My boss has a late sixties Monte Carlo. I did not realize at first that that was what it was, it looked like your average muscle-car-era muscle car. At some time in the '70s, the Monte Carlo became ugly, at least in comparison to the earlier style. Not quite _butt_ ugly, but well worthy of having its hood barfed upon.

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**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/88 "2016-05-05T03:04:27Z")

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Hyundai Veloster and Pontiac Aztek

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/89 "2016-05-05T04:43:41Z")

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[Dymaxion](http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/this-working-replica-of-bucky-fullers-dymaxion-car-is-s-1699976057).

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/90 "2016-05-05T05:05:59Z")

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…but does the Sir Vival [play “La Cucaracha”](http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/The_Homer) when you honk the horn?

And, you know, I think I actually kind of _like_ how the Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet looks. Granted, that might be because it reminds me of the Warthog from Halo, but still…

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/91 "2016-05-05T14:32:19Z")

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> [@Ximenean](#):
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> Two manufacturers that spring to mind are SsangYong, who made a succession of odd-looking vehicles like the [Rodius](http://bestcarmag.com/sites/default/files/1032700SsangYong_Rodius_270_Xdi_front_20100719.jpg), [Musso](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/SsangYong_Musso.JPG), and [Korando](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/SsangYong_Korando_front_20080711.jpg), and Skoda, whose [Fabia](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Skoda_Fabia_Combi_1.6_TDI_Ambiente_(II,_Facelift)_%E2%80%93_Frontansicht,_20._Februar_2011,_W%C3%BClfrath.jpg) is the frumpiest thing on wheels, while the [Roomster](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Skoda_Roomster_front_20091212.jpg) just looks like a miniature hearse.

To be fair, Skoda has a long [history](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Skoda_1000MB_hajaja.jpg) of [ugly](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/13-04-05-Skoda_Museum_Mlad%C3%A1_Boleslav_by_RalfR-122.jpg).We used to refer to it as the “Skrota”.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/92 "2016-05-05T20:11:17Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> [Dymaxion](http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/this-working-replica-of-bucky-fullers-dymaxion-car-is-s-1699976057).

[Google’s Self-Driving Car](http://blog.americansafetycouncil.com/files/2016/03/Google-self-driving-car-prototype-front-three-quarters.jpg) sure looks like Dymaxion’s ugly little brother. I saw one on the road today.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/93 "2016-05-05T20:14:10Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> [Google’s Self-Driving Car](http://blog.americansafetycouncil.com/files/2016/03/Google-self-driving-car-prototype-front-three-quarters.jpg) sure looks like Dymaxion’s ugly little brother. I saw one on the road today.

There is a car you would need a good disguise for.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/94 "2016-05-06T22:02:42Z")

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I saw another Google Self Driving car today. The driver was not wearing a disguise. I live near Google, so I guess I’ll see them more frequently.

Darn.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/95 "2016-05-07T16:40:20Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> I saw another Google Self Driving car today. The driver was not wearing a disguise. I live near Google, so I guess I’ll see them more frequently.
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> Darn.

Wait, a self-driving car had a driver?

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/96 "2016-05-07T16:45:37Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Wait, a self-driving car had a driver?

Good question. Someone was in there, so maybe I should have called him ‘passenger’.

I looked it up, they are ‘test drivers’.

> [@](#):
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> For now, test drivers are aboard all of our vehicles to watch over how the cars drive and provide feedback to the engineering team. The prototype vehicles in particular are equipped with removable steering wheels, accelerator pedals and brake pedals that allow test drivers to take over driving if desired. We plan to eventually remove these manual controls from the prototypes because our vehicles are ultimately designed to operate without a human driver.

FAQ: [https://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/faq/](https://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/faq/)

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/97 "2016-05-07T16:50:08Z")

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[Cadillac XLR](https://www.google.com/search?q=cadillac+xlr&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=947&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwj_zZ-8tcjMAhXEOyYKHffHD1UQ_AUIBigB). There’s just no pretty angle from which to sneak up on.

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**Author:** ![sweat209](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@sweat209](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweat209)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/98 "2016-05-07T21:29:28Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Actually, vehicle weight has steadily increased since about 1980, while fuel economy and HP have improved. Cars have improved in nearly every way over the past 30-40 years.
> 
> [Highlights of the Automotive Trends Report | US EPA](https://www3.epa.gov/otaq/fetrends.htm)

American cars 80’s and before had big hood. It would stick way out.  
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0OHsnRoMnuI/hqdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0OHsnRoMnuI/hqdefault.jpg)  
[![](https://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent00R/main/1971_Eldorado.jpg) ](https://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent00R/main/1971_Eldorado.jpg)  
[http://www.rantcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/88gta21.1.jpg](http://www.rantcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/88gta21.1.jpg)  
[https://c4.staticflickr.com/5/4082/4765722451\_7af9b15619\_b.jpg](https://c4.staticflickr.com/5/4082/4765722451_7af9b15619_b.jpg)

Some models was big at back and other models was shorter.  
[![](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4089/5085054436_1355b7e668_b.jpg) ](https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4089/5085054436_1355b7e668_b.jpg)

[![](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ab/f6/ce/abf6ce6a881738333a3f3d2df0d3e561.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ab/f6/ce/abf6ce6a881738333a3f3d2df0d3e561.jpg)

[![](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3081/2674295397_d9becac30d.jpg) ](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3081/2674295397_d9becac30d.jpg)

It had more big boxing look than round look.  
Well this car is similar to cars today the fact it had more boxing gives you feel it is bigger than cars today.

[http://www.founditemclothing.com/itgoesto11/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ford-mustang-80s-cars.jpg](http://www.founditemclothing.com/itgoesto11/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ford-mustang-80s-cars.jpg)  
Tell me how this car is nicer than those cars below.  
[https://www.enterprisecarsales.com/Media/Default/SEO/Make%20Images/chevy%20cruze.png](https://www.enterprisecarsales.com/Media/Default/SEO/Make%20Images/chevy%20cruze.png)  
[http://image.hotrod.com/f/feature\_stories/hrdp\_0912\_70s\_80s\_musclecars/26729962/hrdp\_0912\_16+70s\_and\_80s\_musclecars.jpg](http://image.hotrod.com/f/feature_stories/hrdp_0912_70s_80s_musclecars/26729962/hrdp_0912_16+70s_and_80s_musclecars.jpg)

[![](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3081/2674295397_d9becac30d.jpg) ](https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3081/2674295397_d9becac30d.jpg)

[![](http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--f0Ohx9ox--/1136236082737435174.jpg) ](http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--f0Ohx9ox--/1136236082737435174.jpg)

May be I just like the old classic cars or cars with big hood. I hate cars with small round front and sloped back, it looks small and ugly.

[http://www.pics4world.com/vb/finecache/2/24393showing.jpg](http://www.pics4world.com/vb/finecache/2/24393showing.jpg)

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/99 "2016-05-07T21:43:55Z")

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Well there are some nice new cars today but they are muscle cars, sports cars or high end cars like below. Make it look bigger and more tough look.  
[http://photos4.automanager.com/020265/images/slideshow/ws4676.jpg](http://photos4.automanager.com/020265/images/slideshow/ws4676.jpg)

[http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto\_shows/paris/2012/1209\_mclaren\_p1\_supercar\_first\_look/40733578/McLaren-P1-rear-view.jpg](http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/paris/2012/1209_mclaren_p1_supercar_first_look/40733578/McLaren-P1-rear-view.jpg)

[http://www.dupontregistry.com/portal08/images/2011-Lamborghini-Gallardo\_LP570-4\_Superleggera.jpg](http://www.dupontregistry.com/portal08/images/2011-Lamborghini-Gallardo_LP570-4_Superleggera.jpg)

[https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UHr6sTn2BVM/VsU0L8jecyI/AAAAAAABxbw/RZCmUfJIRk8/w1241-h615/Lamborghini%2BMiura%2BP400.png](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UHr6sTn2BVM/VsU0L8jecyI/AAAAAAABxbw/RZCmUfJIRk8/w1241-h615/Lamborghini%2BMiura%2BP400.png)

[![](http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201006/30/38/a0095738_14512283.jpg) ](http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201006/30/38/a0095738_14512283.jpg)

[http://www.electriccarpledge.com/data/uploads/bmw-i8-electric-car.jpg](http://www.electriccarpledge.com/data/uploads/bmw-i8-electric-car.jpg)

[![](https://usedcarsunder1000.typepad.com/.a/6a0148c673d65f970c0147e0dc3866970b-600wi) ](https://usedcarsunder1000.typepad.com/.a/6a0148c673d65f970c0147e0dc3866970b-600wi)

[http://www.ruelspot.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/used-lamborghini-gallardo-super-sports-cars-for-sale-2.png](http://www.ruelspot.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/used-lamborghini-gallardo-super-sports-cars-for-sale-2.png)

[![](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/151223125122-gallery-scottsdale-auction-acura-780x439.jpg) ](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/151223125122-gallery-scottsdale-auction-acura-780x439.jpg)

[![](http://i2.letvimg.com/lc04_iscms/201604/22/14/30/8a279a9082cd4601bcca3cc11944a295.jpg) ](http://i2.letvimg.com/lc04_iscms/201604/22/14/30/8a279a9082cd4601bcca3cc11944a295.jpg)

[https://www.enterprisecarsales.com/Media/Default/SEO/SEO%20Page%20Images/Ford/Ford%20Mustang.jpg](https://www.enterprisecarsales.com/Media/Default/SEO/SEO%20Page%20Images/Ford/Ford%20Mustang.jpg)

[![](http://images.hgmsites.net/med/the-2013-shelby-gt500-durability-car-for-sale-at-barrett-jackson_100378762_m.jpg) ](http://images.hgmsites.net/med/the-2013-shelby-gt500-durability-car-for-sale-at-barrett-jackson_100378762_m.jpg)

[![](https://www.9to5carwallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Blue-Ford-Mustang-HD-Wallpaper.jpg) ](https://www.9to5carwallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Blue-Ford-Mustang-HD-Wallpaper.jpg)

[http://only-carz.com/data\_images/gallery/01/ford-shelby-gt500-svt/ford-shelby-gt500-svt-11.jpg](http://only-carz.com/data_images/gallery/01/ford-shelby-gt500-svt/ford-shelby-gt500-svt-11.jpg)

But these are sports cars not the average middle class can have unless you have lot of money.

The average person going to have small round front and sloped back and it is going to look really plain looking.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-ugly-vehicles/752826/100 "2016-05-07T21:53:58Z")

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You can see different of police cars cut down front and back more sloped and rounded look.

New police car  
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xQ6qnzmJUms/maxresdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xQ6qnzmJUms/maxresdefault.jpg)  
[![](http://images.fastcompany.com/upload/2012.0523.fastco.policecar1.jpg) ](http://images.fastcompany.com/upload/2012.0523.fastco.policecar1.jpg)

Old classic police car  
[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-49I2XI1byME/ThOBu\_OQUKI/AAAAAAAEqCk/nmN3kvWQuFI/s800/Ford-Interceptor-40715.jpg](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-49I2XI1byME/ThOBu_OQUKI/AAAAAAAEqCk/nmN3kvWQuFI/s800/Ford-Interceptor-40715.jpg)

[http://www.policehotels.com/hotels/wp-content/gallery/police-vehicles-2/lapd-car.jpg](http://www.policehotels.com/hotels/wp-content/gallery/police-vehicles-2/lapd-car.jpg)

[![](https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2249/2218783809_836bac3944.jpg) ](https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2249/2218783809_836bac3944.jpg)

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