# Butthurt Great Americans **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 17, 2016, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt-great-americans/772242 "2016-11-17T07:04:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt-great-americans/772242/61 "2016-11-18T10:26:43Z")
**Der Trihs** is making the claim that that Trump’s people are talking about internment camps (and in another thread he’s made the claim that they’re already talking about rounding people up), and neither claim has there merest basis in fact. **Der Trihs’** behavior is analogous to someone who’s just found out the government is considering legislation to register gun owners, and then running around claiming the government is planning to round up all the gun owners in the country and take their guns away. If you want to worry about registries and slippery slopes, that’s fine. But then frame the argument in that way and not as hysterical nonsense for which not a shred of evidence exists. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt-great-americans/772242/62 "2016-11-18T13:57:44Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > **Der Trihs** is frequently hysterical but that quote you think proves your point really doesn’t. Higbie’s “I’m not saying we should have internment camps; I’m just saying we need to protect America and, y’know, there’s precedent…” is not exactly a strong repudiation of the idea. > > And then there’s Kris Kobach, current SoS for Kansas and Trump adviser:Nothing to worry about there, nope. So, the worst you got is someone talking about possibly re-instating a program that was active for 3 years under the Obama administration. A program that was ended because there was another program or set of programs that does the same thing. Now, that’s scary!! Anyway, if anyone wants to actually support what **DT** is saying, please come out explicitly and say so. Don’t give us this shit about something that doesn’t come close to what he’s talking about. Because that is what folks are objecting to. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt-great-americans/772242/63 "2016-11-18T16:33:56Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Dyed-in-the-wool KKK members may be few and far between, but people who think Muslims should be deported by force, or round up into camps, or forcefully converted? People who think trans and gay people should be forcefully un-transed and un-gayed? People who think interracial marriage should be illegal again? Add those together, and it’s probably in the\*\* tens of millions\*\*. Bolding mine I just don’t believe that is even remotely close to true. I don’t know anyone who believes any of those things, and I live in the middle of rural America. I have coffee at the gas station every weekday morning with farmers, construction workers, factory laborers, and firemen (just to name a few) and these are not people who hide their true feelings. Only one of them voted for Trump in the primary, but all voted Trump in the general. The #1 reason given for voting Trump? “He’s not Hillary”. They may grumble about gay marriage, but no one wants the LGBT community forcefully converted. Their only problem with Muslims is ISIS and AL-Qaeda. Illegal inter-racial marriage? Really? Tens of millions of people want that? Show me the poll numbers that reflect that. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt-great-americans/772242/64 "2016-11-18T16:33:58Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > This election shows otherwise. > > And,\* it doesn’t matter;\* the bigots have seized the levers of power. Nobody’s going to stop them from doing as they please, nor can they. > > Protests? Protestors will be ignored, or beaten into submission by the police, or just shot. Most likely to the acclaim of the public. > > Voting? Voting suppression is going to run rampant; if you aren’t a white male in a Republican area, you probably effectively no longer have a vote. Just trying to vote will probably get you assaulted, and if you actually get to a polling place you’ll find your registration no longer exists. Similar concerns were raised when Reagan and W Bush were elected, and the country didn’t plunge into the toilet of tyranny. Every Democrat elected is going to take away all our guns, outlaw Christianity, and institute a One World Government. Every Republican elected is going to make sure only white men are in power and all minorities will be oppressed. Oh, and institute a One World Government. Same ol’ song and dance. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt-great-americans/772242/65 "2016-11-18T16:38:49Z")
Actually, when it comes to being misled into a futile, expensive and bloody war, I kinda prefer the toilet. Maybe that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt-great-americans/772242/66 "2016-11-18T18:05:43Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Hear hear, brujaja. And they’re just getting started. Wait for the Supreme Court appointment. And the religious bigotry laws. And new voter supression crap. Well as I learned on this site religion is a bunch of bullshit made up by stupid people because they are too stupid to understand reality because they’re stupid. So I for one am happy that Trump is going to outlaw all religions. > [@](#): > > And the social services- hell, I don’t even know what they plan there. Trump has said that he is going to outlaw all social services because it is just liberal pandering and a waste of money. He said he was going to take that money and build more hotels and golf courses that will fail ten minutes after opening and then sue all his partners into bankruptcy and thus putting millions of people out of a job and leave them homeless on the streets because he’s trying to bring about the apocalypse. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt-great-americans/772242/67 "2016-11-18T20:10:40Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Similar concerns were raised when Reagan and W Bush were elected, and the country didn’t plunge into the toilet of tyranny. It took major steps in that direction however. And the Republicans are now both much more extreme and have essentially complete control of the government. And were elected on a platform of ethnic cleansing and religious persecution. You’re doing the standard Republican apologist thing of claiming that they aren’t _really_ as awful as they claim to be, they’re just lying. > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Every Democrat elected is going to take away all our guns, outlaw Christianity, and institute a One World Government. > Every Republican elected is going to make sure only white men are in power and all minorities will be oppressed. Oh, and institute a One World Government. > > Same ol’ song and dance. The “same ol’ song and dance” is your attempt to pretend that both parties are the same and that they never change. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt-great-americans/772242.md?page=3)