# Butthurt

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 10, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052 "2009-11-10T15:48:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/61 "2009-11-11T02:02:08Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> FWIW, I always figured the adolescent overtones of the phrase to be intentional. The implication being that the person who is complaining doesn’t have a real grievance, but instead the sort of petty complaint typified by immature whining. It’s an intentionally childish term because it describes childish behavior.

That’s the way I always looked at it too.

Did an actual latino linguist ever weigh in on whether or not it is as bad an insult as mentioned in that thread? How would it get translated? I once asked a guy from El Salvador if he was married to a guy he was bickering with. That didn’t go over well. Knives did not emerge but I almost got my ass kicked.

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**Author:** ![hobscrk777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a6a055/32.png) [@hobscrk777](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hobscrk777)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/62 "2009-11-11T02:11:22Z")

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Well, once I wiped one too many times and my butthurt. Does that count?

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/63 "2009-11-11T06:01:02Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Now you’ve got me giggling out loud too. I’m picturing it like a spaghetti western, some snoozing guy in a sleepy town raising the brim of his sombrero to view a stranger, who spits and calls him _that word_, and suddenly a dagger is whisked out from beneath his poncho…

You know, not only does this comment sum up the farcical nature of the situation perfectly, it’s got me realising that almost _every_ situation becomes infinitely cooler if you re-imagine it as being like something from a Spaghetti Western.

Even something as mundane as buying your groceries or making a cup of coffee becomes a crowning moment of awesomeness when you imagine everyone involved wearing ponchos and hats, with Ennio Morricone-esque music playing in the background…

As to the OP, I’m not a fan of the term either.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/64 "2009-11-11T06:12:37Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Being an unholy Brundlefly-like monstrosity comprising Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, and a Diebold machine, I presume.

Clearly I need to up my viewing of the History Channel. Or is A&E still weird crime all the time? 😉

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/65 "2009-11-11T08:00:31Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> You know, not only does this comment sum up the farcical nature of the situation perfectly, it’s got me realising that almost _every_ situation becomes infinitely cooler if you re-imagine it as being like something from a Spaghetti Western.

That reminds me of the UK 1980s comedy short, _A Fist Full of Traveller’s Cheques_ - Brits on vacation in Spain, made as Spaghetti Western.

“You want soft toilet paper? You go to Hotel Gayboy. Thees ees Hotel Bastardos.” “No flusha da guns downa da toilet!”  
“It’s a Euro-Rover… old man.”

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/66 "2009-11-11T13:35:39Z")

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My favorite is “Rogue Cheddar”.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/67 "2009-11-11T14:18:33Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> LOL! I love it when someone uses that one to try to insult me. It says, “I only had a few seconds to think of something marginally insulting to say about you, and will use the most obvious thing I could have come up with.”

Nope. Wasn’t trying to insult you.

I saw the title. Then I saw that you started it.

Had never heard of the term butthurt.

I had heard of the term buttmunch.

So, it’s worse that the feeble attempt of the dimwitted to insult you. It’s the feeble confusion of the dimwitted to recognize the term butthurt.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/68 "2009-11-11T15:40:34Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Nope. Wasn’t trying to insult you.

No, no - I didn’t think you were trying to insult me. It just reminded me of when people do (not that it happens very often).

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/69 "2009-11-11T18:36:39Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> No, no - I didn’t think you were trying to insult me. It just reminded me of when people do (not that it happens very often).

See what happens when you try to comment to the feeble minded?

Let that be a lesson to you. 😃

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/70 "2009-11-11T18:58:16Z")

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> [@phouka](#):
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> See, I thought “butthurt” referred to the self-righteous owie feeling from being thoroughly spanked when you don’t think you deserved it.
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> I hadn’t connected it to anal sex. Guess I have a weird brain.

Likewise, I get no anal sex vibe from the phrase.

There’s a suggestion of a metaphoric spanking, and also of any non-serious and mildly embarrassing pain that might make a person stick out their lower lip and frown.

I think it’s caught on because it’s useful and evocative. It’s too early to know if _butt hurt_ has lexiconic legs, but I don’t like **Bosstone** insisting that the phrase is too evil to even be given a chance.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/71 "2009-11-11T20:49:21Z")

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Spanking, wiping, kicking, penising…I think the underlying message is that _life_, properly lived, is a pain in the ass and you best learn not to cry about it. Butthurt is _not real hurt._

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/72 "2009-11-11T20:57:33Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> I think it’s caught on because it’s useful and evocative. It’s too early to know if _butt hurt_ has lexiconic legs, but I don’t like **Bosstone** insisting that the phrase is too evil to even be given a chance.

:rolleyes:

Please. The phrase itself is not evil, and I never said it was. I even agreed that it can be useful in the right contexts. But it can be misused to dismiss valid arguments, and in my experience it gets misused far more than otherwise.

Either way, it’s a signal that it’s time to stop talking to the person who uses it. Either you really are being a whiny bitch and need to quit moaning, or the person’s decided you’re one and nothing more productive is going to follow.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/73 "2009-11-11T21:22:20Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> No-then your butt-cheeks have a knife fight, possibly to the score of West Side Story.

_Raised hand waving wildly_

Oooh oooh oooh… _I Feel Pretty_?

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/74 "2009-11-11T23:36:58Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> :rolleyes:
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> Please. The phrase itself is not evil, and I never said it was.  
> (…)

> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I hate the word with a violent, blinding passion. It’s one of my easily-pushable buttons; it can send me into a red rage.
> 
> Basically, it’s a more snide version of “Gosh, can’t you take a joke? :rolleyes:” It is, at its heart, a dismissal of one’s feelings or opinions. It says that the person saying it has absolutely no regard for you as a person and does not empathize with you in any way. It’s one of the most effective ways I know to dehumanize someone in casual conversation online.

Hmmm… you know, I don’t think my characterization of your feelings was wildly inaccurate.

And I can’t see how “butt hurt” is a more effective dismissal of someone’s humanity than, say, an eyeroll emoticon. Or calling them overly sensitive.

I wasn’t trying to ‘call you out’ in my post, and wasn’t trying to precisely summarize your arguments. My point was that the phrase in question was useful and succinct and didn’t warrant extreme reactions. I could have substituted the OP’s handle, **Munch** , for yours.

You’re being overly sensitive.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/75 "2009-11-12T00:02:24Z")

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I was butthurt once. True story: I was on an overnight train in Russia many years ago on a Uni trip. We were all very drunk and I fell off a barstool and bruised my tailbone. Hurt like a bitch the next day - and many days afterwards.

Of course, there was no knife fighting involved and the only thing mopping the floor was my drunk ass. 😛

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**Author:** ![Lestrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Lestrade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lestrade)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/76 "2009-11-12T14:24:15Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I don’t read that word without ever thinking of the recipient being fucked in the ass. To me it’s not any less rude than, “Hahaha you just got fucked in the ass faggot-bitch!”, as it essentially means the same thing. Or more specifically refers to someone being unhappy with having something shoved up their ass.
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> I really loathe the idea that euphemisms are somehow less rude. f\*\*\* you means fuck you.

It refers not just to sex in general but the miserable experience of bad anal sex. It’s extremely painful and makes people understandably irritable and self-pitying. When people act that way without just provocation, it’s a fairly good description. When the term doesn’t apply, the speaker looks like a moron.

(Yes, yes, I suppose it can be caused by knives and toilet paper. You people lead weird lives.)

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/77 "2009-11-12T17:04:46Z")

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> [@Lestrade](#):
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> It refers not just to sex in general but the miserable experience of bad anal sex. It’s extremely painful and makes people understandably irritable and self-pitying. When people act that way without just provocation, it’s a fairly good description.

I would take it a step further and add the implication that there _is_ no just provocation. Feel self-pity? Gooood. You surely deserve to. But don’t inflict it on your betters.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/78 "2009-11-12T17:16:24Z")

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> [@Baal\_Houtham](#):
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> You’re being overly sensitive.

Yeah, could be. I know I’m being hyperbolic.

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**Author:** ![Lestrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Lestrade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lestrade)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/79 "2009-11-12T21:07:55Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> I would take it a step further and add the implication that there _is_ no just provocation. Feel self-pity? Gooood. You surely deserve to. But don’t inflict it on your betters.

Did you just say that no one should object under any circumstances? Am I being whooshed here?

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butthurt/517052/80 "2009-11-12T21:15:51Z")

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> [@Lestrade](#):
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> Did you just say that no one should object under any circumstances? Am I being whooshed here?

Not my POV. Just a gloss on the butthurt concept - one of many, potentially.

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