# buttonjockey308 - astounding ignorance **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 30, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197 "2008-05-30T21:31:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tokaido-hokuriku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@tokaido-hokuriku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tokaido-hokuriku)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/1 "2008-05-30T21:31:15Z")
On this board (in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=468803) thread) I just saw a piece of ignorance and arrogance which motivated me to register… [QUOTE=buttonjockey308] There’s a reason that people are risking life and limb to get here, and there’s a reason that people will do anything to stay. No one’s rushing to get into England. No one’s storming the gates in Paris. There’s no one sneaking across Germany’s borders. [/QUOTE] There are no words. Did you know that almost a million Polish people have immigrated to the UK in the last few years, and that we are in the middle of the biggest inward migration in our history? To your credit, you do the old ‘ignorance fought’ thing later on in the thread, but your ignorance here really is culpable, on a par with thinking the Sun revolves around the Earth. How on earth someone can both have a functioning internet connection and believe that noone’s trying to get into England, Paris or Germany is beyond me. It belies a stunning arrogance and closed-mindedness. This quote is from a post where you lament that people don’t sufficiently respect America. Want to know why? Look in the mirror. I’m sure you’re a nice guy, but for fuck’s sake… there’s a whole world out there. tokaido-hokuriku ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/2 "2008-05-30T21:36:05Z")
No, silly. The sun doesn’t revolve around the earth–it revolves around America. Jeesh-- I thought everyone knew _that_. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/3 "2008-05-30T21:46:13Z")
Dern furriners… ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/4 "2008-05-30T21:57:03Z")
Woo-Hoo! My first pitting! Ok, it’s weak, and I’m sure I’ve said something dumber and more pit-worthy before, but still. Still, I admitted my ignorance. Mea maxima culpa, Mr. Foreigner. 😉 Didn’t mean to be overly proud of the country I’m from.] Thanks for the pitting though. ---
**Author:** ![tokaido-hokuriku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@tokaido-hokuriku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tokaido-hokuriku)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/5 "2008-05-30T22:01:26Z")
[QUOTE=buttonjockey308] Woo-Hoo! My first pitting! Ok, it’s weak, and I’m sure I’ve said something dumber and more pit-worthy before, but still. Still, I admitted my ignorance. Mea maxima culpa, Mr. Foreigner. 😉 Didn’t mean to be overly proud of the country I’m from.] Thanks for the pitting though. [/QUOTE] You’ve been very honourable about it, I appreciate that. But (as you know) the pitting isn’t about you being proud of your country 😉 tokaido-hokuriku ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/6 "2008-05-30T22:06:11Z")
He’s got a point, though. The English seem to be leaving England as fast as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/7 "2008-05-30T22:13:57Z")
[QUOTE=smiling bandit] He’s got a point, though. The English seem to be leaving England as fast as possible. [/QUOTE] We are? This is news to us, we assure you. ETA: and even if we were, we would be doing it at no more than 55mph in order to gain maximum fuel efficiency. ---
**Author:** ![tokaido-hokuriku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@tokaido-hokuriku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tokaido-hokuriku)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/8 "2008-05-30T22:14:56Z")
[QUOTE=smiling bandit] He’s got a point, though. The English seem to be leaving England as fast as possible. [/QUOTE] Including me! But this is hardly new - we’ve always been maritime, and in the past did manage to populate a colossal empire, besides providing much of the core population of today’s Canada, USA, Australia and New Zealand. And no, he does not have a point. He claimed that noone was trying to immigrate to England, something demonstrably, and obviously, false. Plus ca change. tokaido hokuriku ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/9 "2008-05-30T22:23:17Z")
If this genteel pitting is an indication of things to come, then welcome to the boards **tokaido-hokuriku**. Are you currently traveling the highway? Hokuriku-chihou is quite the detour 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/10 "2008-05-30T22:23:46Z")
Goddam Brits, with their goddam frenchy talk. Speak american, dammit! ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/11 "2008-05-30T23:12:14Z")
[QUOTE=Dead Badger] We are? This is news to us, we assure you. ETA: and even if we were, we would be doing it at no more than 55mph in order to gain maximum fuel efficiency. [/QUOTE] [5.5 m Britons live abroad](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6210358.stm). That’s 10% of the population. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/12 "2008-05-30T23:26:43Z")
[QUOTE=Dead Badger] We are? This is news to us, we assure you. ETA: and even if we were, we would be doing it at no more than 55mph in order to gain maximum fuel efficiency. [/QUOTE] I’d live there, if you all would have me, but you don’t want me. Guess I’ll go eat worms and stick to visits… ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/13 "2008-05-31T03:03:02Z")
[QUOTE=buttonjockey308] Woo-Hoo! My first pitting! Ok, it’s weak, and I’m sure I’ve said something dumber and more pit-worthy before, but still. [/QUOTE] Man, I’m surprised you even felt this little pebble under your feet. Hell, you’re probably in your bunk now. You get your rest. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/14 "2008-05-31T03:11:31Z")
[QUOTE=tokaido-hokuriku] How on earth someone can both have a functioning internet connection and believe that noone’s trying to get into England, . . . [/QUOTE] Well, I would think that Noone was trying to get into England, at least when he visits family, although, [depending on his passport, it is probably not a problem](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Noone). ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/15 "2008-05-31T04:53:50Z")
[QUOTE=tokaido-hokuriku] To your credit, you do the old ‘ignorance fought’ thing later on in the thread [/QUOTE] Um, let me get this straight. Without beng bitchy about it, he admitted his mistake as soon as he was called on it. He was wrong, and he readily conceded that fact. Plus, it was in a Pit thread, so if you really felt the need to rub it in, you could have done it there. You haven’t really claimed otherwise. So then, remind me again why it was necessary to not only start a thread over this, but to register for the SDMB specifically to do so. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![tokaido-hokuriku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@tokaido-hokuriku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tokaido-hokuriku)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/16 "2008-05-31T08:42:28Z")
[QUOTE=neutron star] Um, let me get this straight. Without beng bitchy about it, he admitted his mistake as soon as he was called on it. He was wrong, and he readily conceded that fact. Plus, it was in a Pit thread, so if you really felt the need to rub it in, you could have done it there. You haven’t really claimed otherwise. So then, remind me again why it was necessary to not only start a thread over this, but to register for the SDMB specifically to do so. 😕 [/QUOTE] This isn’t so much a pitting of him (as you say, he admitted his mistake) as an expression of shock/surprise/horror at the existence of such ignorance from an apparently-educated citizen of a rich country. tokaido-hokuriku ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/17 "2008-05-31T08:53:58Z")
[QUOTE=tokaido-hokuriku] This isn’t so much a pitting of him (as you say, he admitted his mistake) as an expression of shock/surprise/horror at the existence of such ignorance from an apparently-educated citizen of a rich country. tokaido-hokuriku [/QUOTE] You couldn’t have just said, “Wow, I am shocked and surprised that such ignorance from an apprently-educated citizen of a rich country would say that,” in that thread you linked? You’re pitting at a rate of once a day. I wonder how long until you collect the most Pit OP’s in the forum. Makes me wonder who does have the lead though. I remember tamely teasing **Liberal** earlier this week for having started somewhere around 145 of them. Brb, I have spare time on my hands. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/18 "2008-05-31T08:54:16Z")
[QUOTE=Dead Badger] We are? This is news to us, we assure you. [/QUOTE] Really? Whenever anyone here finds out I’m from America they always say. “Why did you move here?” in tones of disbelief. I’d say a good 30% will make a comment later in the conversation about how much they’d like to move to America. Maybe I’m just in a rotten part of England. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/19 "2008-05-31T09:02:18Z")
[QUOTE=Terminus Est] [5.5 m Britons live abroad](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6210358.stm). That’s 10% of the population. [/QUOTE] That’s not a rate of departure, though, is it? And **Darkhold** , as a Londoner I couldn’t possibly comment. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tokaido-hokuriku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@tokaido-hokuriku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tokaido-hokuriku)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197/20 "2008-05-31T09:15:09Z")
[QUOTE=Darkhold] Really? Whenever anyone here finds out I’m from America they always say. “Why did you move here?” in tones of disbelief. I’d say a good 30% will make a comment later in the conversation about how much they’d like to move to America. Maybe I’m just in a rotten part of England. [/QUOTE] I think you can chalk a lot of this up to a British love of complaining, which doesn’t necessarily reveal that much. Think of it like all those Democrat losers (not that all Democrats are losers, just these guys) who were ‘going to move to Canada’. tokaido-hokuriku [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buttonjockey308-astounding-ignorance/451197.md?page=2)