# Buy Greenland and I vote Trump 2020 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 17, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784 "2019-08-17T04:47:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/1 "2019-08-17T04:47:36Z")
The title says it all. But it is a strict condition: Greenland must be formally ours by Election Day 2020. No promises, no excuses, just ours. It does not have to be a state. It does not have to be a commonwealth. It could be a US territory. You could slice it a lot of ways. But if the US acquires Greenland, I’ll vote Trump 2020. Of course, there are limits. Trump can get away with a lot of bad behavior in the past if he acquires Greenland. But I can’t see the future. It is possible his behavior could become so egregious that even Greenland couldn’t compensate it. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/2 "2019-08-17T05:21:24Z")
In my opinion a voter should make his/her choice on something less meaningless. Not that gaining Greenland would be totally meaningless, it’s just that there are several more important criteria on which to make ones decision. Your Mileage. It could be different than mine. Vary. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/3 "2019-08-17T05:23:37Z")
Is “I’ll vote for Trump” the modern-day version of “I’ll eat my hat?” ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/4 "2019-08-17T05:56:08Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Is “I’ll vote for Trump” the modern-day version of “I’ll eat my hat?” I’m the kind of person who would hedge my bets on such a promise by first making that hat out of edible taco, like the chip hat in _Despicable Me 2._ ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/5 "2019-08-17T06:01:06Z")
Leave it to Trump to buy something that’s melting away. He can buy it now, but it could be gone by November 2020. Would you still vote for him then? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/6 "2019-08-17T06:02:27Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Leave it to Trump to buy something that’s melting away. Sure, but the whole point of it melting away is that it makes all kinds of mineral resources accessible. Of course, that just accelerates climate change. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/7 "2019-08-17T06:22:19Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Sure, but the whole point of it melting away is that it makes all kinds of mineral resources accessible. Of course, that just accelerates climate change. That was just a half-joking reference to Trump’s business skills, as in his casino “success.” U.S companies can get access to those minerals without making the government buy the place. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/8 "2019-08-17T07:12:22Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Sure, but the whole point of it melting away is that it makes all kinds of mineral resources accessible. Of course, that just accelerates climate change. And, since Trump does not believe it is melting, we can expect a casino like failure (but this time applied to the whole world including America) for not preparing at all. [But if Trump is just pretending so as to keep his followers happy and he or his family are looking to become richer, he must then be aware of his follower’s foolishness](https://time.com/5622374/donald-trump-climate-change-hoax-event/). He, and almost all Republicans, do not care that many other regions of the world (And the American South) will go to pot because: [Greenland is going to be lovely .](https://youtu.be/CY4Yecsx_-s?t=1066)\* [sub]\* Link to video goes to the final seconds of Science writer Peter Hadfield talking about the best evidence of what took place elsewhere in the world when Greenland was a bit warmer. > [@](#): > > [sub]Hang on, you’re talking about Greenland again. I want to know what the rest of the world was like during the Medieval Warm Period. It may be very nice for Greenlanders, but most people don’t live in Greenland. How come we’re never given examples of balmy wonderful riches anywhere else in the world? Well the reason could be because not everywhere was like Western Europe, one of the best known and best researched examples is North America which certainly seems to warm during the Medieval Warm Period, but it also got a lot drier; so dry that researchers are referring to conditions as a mega drought, and as more research is done into the Medieval Warm Period, coincident drought is turning up in areas as far afield as China and Amazonia. And this is exactly what computer modelers had predicted as the consequence of the current increase in temperatures. > > An increasing drought spreading out from the southwestern United States that will eventually encompass much of the grain belt, and as in the Medieval Warm Period, other parts of the world will also become drier; but here’s the good news that somewhat vindicates those who say the Medieval Warm Period was a golden balmy earth full of riches: > > Greenland’s going to be lovely.[/sub] [/sub] ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/9 "2019-08-17T11:40:45Z")
:Sigh: Imperialists are like this: > **[I want oil - Scandinavia and the World](https://satwcomic.com/i-want-oil)** > > Webcomic: So there is a spot between Canada and Greenland where there might be oil, and now all the countries around it claim it as their ow Greenlanders are like this: > **[A Big F You - Scandinavia and the World](https://satwcomic.com/a-big-f-you)** > > Webcomic: Denmark really did put Greenland through a lot of shit and fucked everything up like you wouldn't believe, and today Greenlan And the USA interloping into Greenland sounds like a joke to me. > **[Free Greenland - Scandinavia and the World](https://satwcomic.com/free-greenland)** > > Webcomic: Some time ago it was very fashionable to fight for Tibet, but China was like a rock, so shortly thereafter people suddenly started ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/10 "2019-08-17T13:57:40Z")
If Trump buys Greenland, what happens to the inhabitants? Are they given citizenship? If not, what is their status? Do they automatically get green cards? Could they all be deported to Denmark? ---
**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/11 "2019-08-17T14:04:55Z")
A satire article in Esquire said that Denmark has countered with an offer to buy the US. They promise health care and better education. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/12 "2019-08-17T22:04:24Z")
> [@tim-n-va](#): > > A satire article in Esquire said that Denmark has countered with an offer to buy the US. They promise health care and better education. We should go for this, unless we get a better offer. ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/13 "2019-08-17T22:23:08Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > If Trump buys Greenland, what happens to the inhabitants? Are they given citizenship? If not, what is their status? Do they automatically get green cards? Could they all be deported to Denmark? Trump’s immigration policies always include a dose of racism, so why would things be different this time? Those who can prove European descent can become citizens. They’re white, so Trump wants them. Those who can’t become “permanent residents” since Denmark will point out that, ethnically, they’re not Danish. The courts would interfere, and Trump would keep finding different ways to say “non-white” and exclude them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/14 "2019-08-17T23:40:09Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > If Trump buys Greenland, what happens to the inhabitants? Are they given citizenship? If not, what is their status? Do they automatically get green cards? Could they all be deported to Denmark? I’m sure the Trump administration will give them the same respect and support they’ve given to Puerto Rico. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/15 "2019-08-18T03:39:29Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Is “I’ll vote for Trump” the modern-day version of “I’ll eat my hat?” Yup. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/16 "2019-08-18T17:45:57Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’m sure the Trump administration will give them the same respect and support they’ve given to Puerto Rico. I’ve thought that we should rename Puerto Rico “Greenland” and sell that to Trump. Everything stays the same except that now Puerto Rico has the money it needs to rebuild. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/17 "2019-08-18T20:29:36Z")
You kidding? He’d stiff them on the cheque - same as El Paso for the convention fees, but bigly! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/18 "2019-08-18T22:49:57Z")
Or the check is made out to “Greenland Holdings, LLC”, which turns out to be a subsidiary of the Trump Organization. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/19 "2019-08-18T23:19:10Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > It does not have to be a state. It does not have to be a commonwealth. It could be a US territory. You could slice it a lot of ways. But if the US acquires Greenland, I’ll vote Trump 2020. Why? I mean, I have said elsewhere that the US owning Greenland is a neutral to not-bad idea. But there’s no way I would accept this as a substitute for Trump’s continuing to do dumb things while generally failing to to smart things and serving in general as a howling rattling senescent dickbag of chuds that nobody really wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784/20 "2019-08-19T03:48:03Z")
Greenland carries incalculable value to the US if viewed from 50, 100, 200 years out. Especially if you believe climate change will really take effect over that time frame. It very well may be one of the nicest places around once it is denuded of ice and the nearly million square miles of virgin territory revealed. Trump’s damage (hopefully) will not have so lasting an effect. A recession? Meh, bump in the road. He could get re-elected, get caught banging a robot hooker in the Oval Office and subsequently, finally be impeached, and it would still be worth it. Because, Greenland is forever. If Trump wants to just buy my vote, he can buy it with Greenland. Now, if it is one of those situations like when we fomented a war with Mexico, marched in and bombarded Mexico City until they surrendered, then made a “deal” where we paid them $10 million for swathes of territory, sent the troops home and called it square, then no, that is egregious and the start of WWIII and Trump scores no points. If he can somehow buy Greenland though, fine. Quite the Presidential accomplishment. In fact, neither Abraham Lincoln nor Barack Obama bought Greenland. Not even Ronald Reagan managed. I don’t think it will happen. I won’t actually eat my hat, but maybe later I will add that to my offer to sweeten the pot. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buy-greenland-and-i-vote-trump-2020/838784.md?page=2)