# Buying Votes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-votes/40200>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 8, 2000, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-votes/40200 "2000-11-08T00:06:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![yamo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e19b73/32.png) [@yamo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yamo1)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-votes/40200/1 "2000-11-08T00:06:04Z")

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California Attorny General went after a vote swap web site because state law prohibits exchanging a vote for any thing-even another vote. But ‘get out the vote’ efforts offered free car washes and Georgia offered a lottery ticket to win a shotgun. Is not this also offering a bribe to vote regardless that for whom one votes is not part of the illegal exchange?

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-votes/40200/2 "2000-11-08T00:20:09Z")

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The California crackdown was in line with prior California practice. In California, a bakery had to stop a promotion where you would get a free donut if you showed your stub from voting.

I think that the voteswapping website crackdown was actually initiated by the Secretary of State of California and not the Attorney General.

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**Author:** ![Zumba\_The\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/779978/32.png) [@Zumba\_The\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zumba_The_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-votes/40200/3 "2000-11-08T00:29:06Z")

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yamo - I think that there is a big difference between the two.

In the “vote swapping” you are promising a specific vote. That is what the laws are against.

In the “get the vote out” promotions they are just trying to get people to vote, not to vote for a specific candidate.

If they gave you a free car wash for voting for Al Gore it would be illegal. If they give you a free car wash for voting for who ever you wanted they it is okay.

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-votes/40200/4 "2000-11-08T00:35:17Z")

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But in California, you can’t give away anything in consideration for voting. You can’t even use inducements to get to people to the polls. It’s frowned upon out here.

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**Author:** ![yamo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e19b73/32.png) [@yamo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yamo1)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-votes/40200/5 "2000-11-08T01:33:56Z")

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But if i offered the incentive only to particular areas couldn’t i manipulate the outcome of an election?

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**Author:** ![ladybug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/46a35a/32.png) [@ladybug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladybug)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-votes/40200/6 "2000-11-08T13:53:38Z")

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A few days ago our student newspaper printed a link to [Nader Trader](http://www.nadertrader.org/), which apparently was designed to help Gore win in highly contested states while still allowing Nader to get 5 percent of the vote.

Was this the site the California Attorney General went after?

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2000, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-votes/40200/7 "2000-11-08T19:59:03Z")

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> …Georgia offered a lottery ticket to win a shotgun.

'Scuse me? I live and vote in Georgia and have never heard of this practice. Got any specifics? I want my shotgun.
