# \[BVS Anyone?\] Joss Whedon I'm Surprised at You! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 24, 2000, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bvs-anyone-joss-whedon-im-surprised-at-you/34395 "2000-09-24T21:35:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Iolanthe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7bcc69/32.png) [@Iolanthe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iolanthe)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2000, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bvs-anyone-joss-whedon-im-surprised-at-you/34395/21 "2000-09-26T21:54:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Peta Tzunami \* > **Well, I thought there were some rough spots in Season Four, but didn’t leave it with as negative a feeling. _Angel_ rocked all season (with, for me, the exception of ONE episode that contained BAD logic). I think he and Cordelia have really come into their own.** If it’s the episode I’m thinking of (She, with the women-from-the-other-dimension,) it’s not just the bad logic, it’s the bad character writing, NON-SUBTLE metaphor, very uncomfortable looking costumes, and did I mention bad character writing? And ditto to everything else you said. > [@](#): > > \*\* > Hopefully they’ll figure out what to do with Giles and Xander (not together, of course, but…) > \*\* Philistine. Just think of all the shirtless scenes we could have. 🙂 The rumors I have heard have been positive. I think they’ll deal with some of your concerns, Peta, with both Dawn and Xander. The more Giles (especially Giles) and Xander, the happier I’ll be. We’ll find out tonight (woo hoo!) in about 2 1/2 hrs. Of course I have choir rehearsal, and won’t be home until 10 pm. Patience is a virtue. Right. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bvs-anyone-joss-whedon-im-surprised-at-you/34395.md?page=1)