# By disagreeing with Bush's war plan, you support terrorism. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2003, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006 "2003-02-05T18:19:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/21 "2003-02-05T18:58:55Z")
Diogenes the Cynic: Uh… supporting Bin Ladin. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/22 "2003-02-05T19:00:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yme \* > \*\*Diogenes the Cynic: Uh… supporting Bin Ladin. \*\* Ohhhh… So you want to invade _Saudi Arabia_! That’s not the same country as Iraq. Look at a map – they’re in different places. ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/23 "2003-02-05T19:00:21Z")
So it’s safe to say that most of you support terrorism? ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/24 "2003-02-05T19:01:56Z")
Giraffe: Dude, we should go after Iraq for supporting Bin Ladin. Where the fuck did you pull that shit out of? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/25 "2003-02-05T19:02:23Z")
It’s safe to say you have the brain power of a toadstool. ---
**Author:** ![Feynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@Feynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feynn)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/26 "2003-02-05T19:04:13Z")
I **do** get upset when innocent people die, I can’t see how the ordinary people in Iraq will mourn any differently than I would if their parents, sons, or daughters were killed. I bet Sadam expresses many sentiments almost identical to: “We are America, we can do whatever we want, whenever we want.” … except he replaces the word America with Iraq. It’s not the kind of sentiments that will make anyone a lot of friends. If no-one openly disagreed with or questioned Bush’s line of thought or decision making I would be seriously fucking concerned as that’s also the situation in Iraq. You don’t see Iraqis marching in the streets and protesting very often do you? I’d suggest laying off the drugs for a while. Finally… Saddam Hussein has got to go but at what cost? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/27 "2003-02-05T19:06:02Z")
**Yme** please clear up your argument, maybe we can actually answer you. ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/28 "2003-02-05T19:08:35Z")
Giraffe, you make me laugh. Your lucky this is only 1’s and 0’s, otherwise I’d **o** your \*\*\*. [Seriously though] Do you really think we should sit back and let Saddam hate us? He himself hurts innocent people. To me Desert Storm never ended, it was just put on pause, while we thought about what to do with his punk ass. Did you disagree with Desert Storm? I mean come on we never finished our mission. [/Seriously though] ---
**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/29 "2003-02-05T19:10:07Z")
> [@](#): > > Tell me how if feels when your daughter is in the new WTC, and she dies in it because 15 years ago, we just said, (In a whiny yuppie voice), “there’s just not enough evidence”. Then we’ll be justifiably angry that Bush stopped hunting a wounded, yet still dangerous Al Qaida in favor of stalking a stuffed and mounted sitting duck (in a barrel) like Saddam. ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/30 "2003-02-05T19:11:32Z")
Robb: The two are related though. ---
**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/31 "2003-02-05T19:11:45Z")
Next on “Misinformed Theater,” a lamp talks about Bush’s tax plan! ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/32 "2003-02-05T19:12:40Z")
I’ll try to make this easy for you: 1. There is no evidence that Al Qaeda has received support from Saddam. Did you listen to Powell’s speech to the U.N. this morning? (I’m pretty certain you didn’t, as it involved words with more than one syllable and wasn’t broadcast during “Jackass”.) The best evidence they can provide is nebulous at best – an al Qaeda member may have been in Bahgdad for a few months. That doesn’t prove a government connection – the east coast sniper was in D.C. for a while, too. 2. Saddam strongly opposes and suppresses militant Islam, as it would weaken his power. 3. Many of the terrorists were Saudis, and there are clear links between Saddam and Saudi Arabia. Not that I think we should invade Saudi Arabia, but if we’re going to invade someone because of 9/11, they make more sense than Iraq. 4. Terrorism comes from having groups of people who hate us enough to die to hurt us. You can’t defend against that with tanks. Invading Iraq without convincing evidence of a direct, immediate threat makes us look aggressive and dangerous to Muslims, a country who will inflict enormous suffering on Iraqi civilians in order to further our own agenda. I for one don’t want our government killing innocent Iraqis to make ourselves feel better about being attacked by someone else, when the result will likely be increased terrorism and hatred of Americans around the world. Of course, that doesn’t fit into your ignorant “yee haw – let’s kick ass!” world view. But don’t be so idiotic to suppose that people who oppose this war do so because they love America less than you do. Moron. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/33 "2003-02-05T19:15:24Z")
by telling people they support terrorism, you support terrorism!! ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/34 "2003-02-05T19:15:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yme \* > \*\*Giraffe, you make me laugh. > Your lucky this is only 1’s and 0’s, > otherwise I’d **o** your \ ***.** This makes _me_ laugh. I’m _pretty sure_ I’m bigger than you. I only meet a few people a year who aren’t. And, just so you know, personal threats are highly frowned upon on this message board. Don’t get yourself banned before you have a chance to refute my arguments. ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/35 "2003-02-05T19:17:00Z")
by telling me i support terrorism, means that you support terrorism because you told me i support terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/36 "2003-02-05T19:18:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yme \* > \*\*Giraffe, you make me laugh. > Your lucky this is only 1’s and 0’s, > otherwise I’d **o** your \*\*\*. > > [Seriously though] > Do you really think we should sit back and let Saddam hate us? > He himself hurts innocent people. To me Desert Storm never ended, it was just put on pause, while we thought about what to do with his punk ass. Did you disagree with Desert Storm? I mean come on we never finished our mission. > [/Seriously though] \*\* Too obtuse, whats your fucking point? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/37 "2003-02-05T19:20:15Z")
yes, but by telling me i support terrorism because i told you you support terrorism because you told me i support terrorism, you support terrorism!!! ---
**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/38 "2003-02-05T19:25:19Z")
**yme** , read what **Giraffe** wrote. Al Qaeda is a threat to Saddam’s government. ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/39 "2003-02-05T19:28:29Z")
Just face it whatever we do with our lives, we support terrorism. ---
**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/40 "2003-02-05T19:29:45Z")
Robb: Even so, there are other reasons to go after his ass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006.md?page=3)