# By disagreeing with Bush's war plan, you support terrorism.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 5, 2003, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006 "2003-02-05T18:19:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/41 "2003-02-05T19:36:41Z")

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\*\*otherwise I’d **o** your \ ***.**  
stomp your age.

Don’t take things so seriously.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/42 "2003-02-05T19:40:54Z")

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This has to be one of the most moronic threads ever started here. You really are simple, aren’t you.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/43 "2003-02-05T19:44:30Z")

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> Don’t take things so seriously.

And don’t post even veiled threats against other members. This is **not** a suggestion.

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**Author:** ![Scruff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Scruff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scruff)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/44 "2003-02-05T19:47:07Z")

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There’s more chance of Dick Cheney and Saddam Hussein working together than Saddam and Osama bin Laden.

Before Exercise Desert Storm (Gulf War I), Osama bin Laden who, at that time was a noble freedom fighter opposing the Russian menace in Afghanistan, made an offer to the Saudis to remove Hussein from power, er, permanently.

The Saudis declined his kind offer, especially as the Americans and British were feeding weapons (including “Weapons of Mass Destruction”) to Hussein, who was keeping the Iranian menace in check, along with a Kurd or two. The Saudi government felt (probably) that the implications of having a secular leader assassinated by a popular Muslim fundamentalist might not play well with the Christian fundamentalist government of the US. Key players at the time include names you might recognize, such as Bush (the elder), Cheney and Rumsfeld.

Strange old world, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/45 "2003-02-05T19:54:51Z")

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Yeah, this post did take it to the extreme, but why am I simple for it? It’s all in good fun, really it is.  
Well, you know what they say about opinions.

More moronic than this OP, please:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=160477](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=160477)

Saying we shouldn’t kick their ass is simple. “Let’s just not do it.”

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**Author:** ![yme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/35a633/32.png) [@yme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yme)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/46 "2003-02-05T19:57:29Z")

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**UncleBeer** and **Giraffe** , I apologize for my surreptitious threats, it just got out of hand. It won’t happen again.

But everything else stands.

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**Author:** ![Dumbguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dumbguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dumbguy)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/47 "2003-02-05T20:05:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yme \*  
> \*\*Do you really think we should sit back and let Saddam hate us?  
> He himself hurts innocent people. To me Desert Storm never ended, it was just put on pause, while we thought about what to do with his punk ass. Did you disagree with Desert Storm? I mean come on we never finished our mission. \*\*

Dude, did you ever see **Red Dawn**? That movie ROCKED!! I mean, it’s kinda old and shit, but still. Fuckin’ A.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/48 "2003-02-05T20:16:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Giraffe \*  
> \*\*This makes _me_ laugh. I’m _pretty sure_ I’m bigger than you. I only meet a few people a year who aren’t. \*\*

_This_ makes me laugh. I love it when people swagger from behind their computer screens. The anonymity of the internet can turn anyone into a hulking tough guy.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/49 "2003-02-05T20:24:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \*  
> \*\*This has to be one of the most moronic threads ever started here. \*\*

The true magnitude of this statement astounds me, given how moronic some of the other threads around here have been.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/50 "2003-02-05T20:34:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by leander \*  
> \*\*_This_ makes me laugh. I love it when people swagger from behind their computer screens. The anonymity of the internet can turn anyone into a hulking tough guy. \*\*

Doesn’t mean it ain’t true. 😛

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/51 "2003-02-05T20:36:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yme \*  
> **Yeah, this post did take it to the extreme, but why am I simple for it? It’s all in good fun, really it is.**

Yes I’m sure it’s buckets of fun for our troops on the front lines, and for million of other people around the world who are affected directly and indirectly by this situation.

:wally

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/52 "2003-02-05T20:36:52Z")

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> Yeah, this post did take it to the extreme, but why am I simple for it? It’s all in good fun, really it is.

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> Oh please, go over there and die with em’ for all I care. . . . Eat a gun.

Yup. It’s all just in good fun. Please.

And you’re simple because your opinion isn’t based on reason. Nor facts.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/53 "2003-02-05T21:19:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by leander \*  
> \*\*_This_ makes me laugh. I love it when people swagger from behind their computer screens. The anonymity of the internet can turn anyone into a hulking tough guy. \*\*

Yeah, I thought that was going to come across wrong. I really wasn’t trying to swagger – I don’t get into fights, least of all with some random idiot from a message board. But his implication that I was lucky I was safe behind the computer screen made me smile. He couldn’t have known, but I happen to be pretty big (6’8", 220 lbs).

In retrospect, I should have just ignored it, and stuck with mocking his posts.

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**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/54 "2003-02-06T00:43:42Z")

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IMHO, the humor in the situation was that Giraffe could have been a paralyzed comatose heroin-addict waif on life support, and  
yme has the same chance of kicking his ass.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/55 "2003-02-06T01:07:47Z")

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Well, for the purposes of _this_ particular post, I happen to be 7’2", 385 lbs of chiseled granite, have assorted martial arts blacks belts, an arsenal to make James Bond jealous and can dance a mean Merengue.

Nope, they don’t come much bigger than moi… on the Internet 😉

So, _there_.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/56 "2003-02-06T01:55:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yme \*  
> **Do you really care about someone on the news when they get shot up or their house burns down? You just say, “that’s too bad”, and you keep goin’, don’t ya? Well, that’s all we have to do.**

So following that logic, you support the people who shoot them or burn down their houses?

And **Avalonian** , why do you hate America?

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**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/57 "2003-02-06T02:18:05Z")

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Well, hell, RedFury, I’m 8’6’’ and weigh 450 pounds and it’s all pure muscle. I have a pet bear that I wrestle every morning just to wake up properly. I have a black belt in every form of martial arts know to humanity, carry 50 large knives on me and can throw them 300 yards and hit 99 percent of the time, and carry an Uzi, a sawed-off repeating shotgun, and two accuratized .45 automatics concealed in my clothes, and a bazooka shoved up my ass.  
When I get erect, the heavens part. 😃

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**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/58 "2003-02-06T02:46:03Z")

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(Wasn’t there a thread for this sort of thing already?)

Well, muscle tissue and sharp or dense metal is all very well and good, but that is not true strength. True strength is when you stare into the empty sockets of Death, the blank grey orbs of Fate, and the courscating rainbow’d irises of Madness, and they all blink first. And then you make Death and Madness your personal bitches, and put Fate on your wait staff. And then you bitch-slap God when his pansy-ass complains to you about wanting his anthropomorphic personifications back, if you please, sir? That’s strength.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/59 "2003-02-06T03:05:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gatopescado \*  
> **I would just like to say that this is in fact the first time I appear in this thread! 🙂**

No I’m sorry, there isn’t time…!

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/by-disagreeing-with-bushs-war-plan-you-support-terrorism/153006/60 "2003-02-06T04:09:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Peyote Coyote \*  
> \*\*Well, hell, RedFury, I’m 8’6’’ and weigh 450 pounds and it’s all pure muscle. I have a pet bear that I wrestle every morning just to wake up properly. I have a black belt in every form of martial arts know to humanity, carry 50 large knives on me and can throw them 300 yards and hit 99 percent of the time, and carry an Uzi, a sawed-off repeating shotgun, and two accuratized .45 automatics concealed in my clothes, and a bazooka shoved up my ass.  
> When I get erect, the heavens part. 😃 \*\*

Pfft! Guess what I had for dinner? That’s right, BBQ’ed Peyote Coyote bear, that’s what. And I used your dick for a toothpick afterwards.

But I ain’t planning on using your bazooka any time soon. :eek:

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