# Bye-bye Ashcroft! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 4, 2004, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991 "2004-11-04T16:32:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/1 "2004-11-04T16:32:29Z")
From Fox News: _Meanwhile, Attorney General John Ashcroft (search) is expected to turn in his resignation, sources told FOX News. Ashcroft has, for months, signaled his desire to leave the Justice Department, sources said, and he could leave as early as January._ Not nearly soon enough for me, you sancimonious pig-fucker! Let the boobies of Justice be seen again across the land! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/2 "2004-11-04T16:35:55Z")
Itā€™s a sad commentary that my first reaction was not elation but rather, ā€œOh god, theyā€™re only going to appoint someone worse.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![RandomLetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@RandomLetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandomLetters)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/3 "2004-11-04T16:36:06Z")
Of course, this could all be part of the plan to have him appointed to the Supreme Court. MWHAHAHAHAHA!!! šŸ˜ƒ :eek: šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/4 "2004-11-04T16:37:05Z")
Oh, happy day! Oh, frabjous joy! Ding dong the witch is dead! Awaiting the new witchā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/5 "2004-11-04T16:37:40Z")
First good news Iā€™ve had in three days. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/6 "2004-11-04T16:37:55Z")
> [@Juniper200](#): > > Itā€™s a sad commentary that my first reaction was not elation but rather, ā€œOh god, theyā€™re only going to appoint someone worse.ā€ White House counsel Alberto Gozalez seems to have the inside track. Worse may be an understatement. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/7 "2004-11-04T16:40:10Z")
Is there a link? I want to believe, but have had a blow or two to my optimism of late. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/8 "2004-11-04T16:40:32Z")
After Janet Waco (for whom Americans were clay pigeons) and John Asshole (for whom Americans were obscene whores), how much worse could it be? ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/9 "2004-11-04T16:42:02Z")
> [@RandomLetters](#): > > Of course, this could all be part of the plan to have him appointed to the Supreme Court. MWHAHAHAHAHA!!! šŸ˜ƒ :eek: šŸ˜ƒ Well, if that isnā€™t a chilling thought. I almost threw up a little in my mouth. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/10 "2004-11-04T16:42:47Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > White House counsel Alberto Gozalez seems to have the inside track. Worse may be an understatement. Care to shed a little more light? Is this guy really bad? I know nothing about him. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/11 "2004-11-04T16:43:03Z")
> [@Juniper200](#): > > Itā€™s a sad commentary that my first reaction was not elation but rather, ā€œOh god, theyā€™re only going to appoint someone worse.ā€ Itā€™ll be interesting to see, if that happens, some lefty Dopers pining for the days of Ashcroft. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/12 "2004-11-04T16:43:25Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > After Janet Waco (for whom Americans were clay pigeons) and John Asshole (for whom Americans were obscene whores), how much worse could it be? Donā€™t ask. I am sure with minimal effort that the administration could top him. \ ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/13 "2004-11-04T16:43:53Z")
WooooooooT šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/14 "2004-11-04T16:46:34Z")
> [@RandomLetters](#): > > Of course, this could all be part of the plan to have him appointed to the Supreme Court. [Or maybe not](http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/04/election.main/index.html): > [@](#): > > Private signals from Justice Department sources have indicated for some months that the attorney general has no plans to serve a second term. > > Some sources have said that Ashcroftā€™s health is a factor in his decision. The attorney general suffered from pancreatitis earlier this year. Gonzales would have to explain what went on when he wrote the memo suggesting that Bush and Rumsfeld could blow off the Geneva Conventions on the grounds of ā€œquaintnessā€. Fuhgeddaboutit. ---
**Author:** ![usar\_jag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f0a364/32.png) [@usar\_jag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usar_jag)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/15 "2004-11-04T16:49:54Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > White House counsel Alberto Gozalez seems to have the inside track. Worse may be an understatement. Thatā€™s interestingā€¦ I have always assumed that Rudy Giuliani would get the nod, to position him for 2008. Weā€™ll have to seeā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/16 "2004-11-04T16:50:53Z")
> [@usar\_jag](#): > > Thatā€™s interestingā€¦ I have always assumed that Rudy Giuliani would get the nod, to position him for 2008. Weā€™ll have to seeā€¦ That was my thought as well. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/17 "2004-11-04T16:51:41Z")
> [@usar\_jag](#): > > Thatā€™s interestingā€¦ I have always assumed that Rudy Giuliani would get the nod, to position him for 2008. The assumption Iā€™ve seen is that Giulianiā€™s running for Governor of NY in 2006. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/18 "2004-11-04T16:52:45Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Care to shed a little more light? Is this guy really bad? I know nothing about him. I only have time for a drive-by post right now - Iā€™ll look for cites in an hour or two if not beaten to it. Gonzalez authored the opinions that detainees did not need to be treated as POWs, and that torture was OK. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/19 "2004-11-04T16:53:18Z")
> [@usar\_jag](#): > > Thatā€™s interestingā€¦ I have always assumed that Rudy Giuliani would get the nod, to position him for 2008. Weā€™ll have to seeā€¦ You know I wouldnā€™t mind Guiliani, except I just read about Stanley Milgramā€™s shock experiments. I think anyone who takes the job is fucked. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991/20 "2004-11-04T16:54:54Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > I only have time for a drive-by post right now - Iā€™ll look for cites in an hour or two if not beaten to it. Gonzalez authored the opinions that detainees did not need to be treated as POWs, and that torture was OK. :eek: 'nuff said. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bye-bye-ashcroft/272991.md?page=2)