# BYU player booted from team for having sex

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 3, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309 "2011-03-03T03:38:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/1 "2011-03-03T03:38:11Z")

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What a conundrum. We have a Top 5 ranked basketball team with, arguably, the best player in the country. We have a very good chance at winning the National Championship, and from a Mid-Major conference no less! But our biggest achievement? Our boys are all virgins! And then one of them failed us and brought us shame…

> **[BYU: Davies' honor code dismissal not criminal](https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/news/story?id=6175090)**
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> BYU officials confirmed Wednesday that starting forward Brandon Davies wasn't involved in anything criminal that resulted in his dismissal from the team.

What a joke!

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/2 "2011-03-03T03:51:16Z")

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I respect BYU for upholding their values, but I hope they realize that they’ll never win a title with a majority non-Mormon roster.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/3 "2011-03-03T03:54:07Z")

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Well, at least he wasn’t drinking tea.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/4 "2011-03-03T03:58:11Z")

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When questioned about his suspension, the player stated, “So worth it. Getting laid really put winning a basketball trophy into perspective.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/5 "2011-03-03T04:03:32Z")

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I think ESPN should revise their story. It’s borderline pornographic:

> [@](#):
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> [Davies …] gave the Cougars length and size inside.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/6 "2011-03-03T04:30:57Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> What a conundrum. We have a Top 5 ranked basketball team with, arguably, the best player in the country. We have a very good chance at winning the National Championship, and from a Mid-Major conference no less! But our biggest achievement? Our boys are all virgins! And then one of them failed us and brought us shame…
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> [Report: Brandon Davies case about sex - ESPN](http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6175090)
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> What a joke!

Call me when they beat anybody.

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**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/7 "2011-03-03T04:34:35Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Call me when they beat anybody.

Somebody beat him, if you catch my drift.

Eh? Ehhhh? 😉

I was working on that one for a while. ☹

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/8 "2011-03-03T04:40:56Z")

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Doesn’t the penalty seem a bit stiff?

Joe

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/9 "2011-03-03T04:42:12Z")

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Great recruiting tool, too.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/10 "2011-03-03T04:42:44Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Call me when they beat anybody.

Well, this issue certainly seems to have affected the team. They’re getting killed by New Mexico, a bad team, and at home! And historically, BYU always wins at home.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/11 "2011-03-03T09:05:17Z")

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He’s on a breakaway! Only one defender stands between him and the basket. He pump fakes, drives it hard down the baseline, and slam dunk! The crowd goes wild!

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/12 "2011-03-03T17:15:51Z")

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How the hell did Jim McMahon last 4 years there?

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/13 "2011-03-03T17:19:37Z")

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I’m not saying I agree with their moral code, but at least they’re consistent in enforcing it, unlike the vast majority of NCAA teams, who, when a player breaks the rules, just look the other way, that is if they’re not actively trying to sweep the entire mess under the rug.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/14 "2011-03-03T17:26:35Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> I’m not saying I agree with their moral code, but at least they’re consistent in enforcing it, unlike the vast majority of NCAA teams, who, when a player breaks the rules, just look the other way, that is if they’re not actively trying to sweep the entire mess under the rug.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/15 "2011-03-03T17:46:16Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> How the hell did Jim McMahon last 4 years there?

You read my mind.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/16 "2011-03-03T18:56:02Z")

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It’s not his fault; the coach told him he should be scoring more at home.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/17 "2011-03-03T19:05:09Z")

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Anyone who doesn’t know that sex is better than basketball will not benefit from a college education.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/18 "2011-03-03T19:20:12Z")

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This is exactly why Shawn Kemp didn’t play college ball.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/19 "2011-03-03T19:36:47Z")

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> [@Doctor\_Who](#):
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> Cite?

Well, here’s one example:

> **[Reggie Bush](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Bush)**
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> Reginald Alfred Bush II (born March 2, 1985) is an American former professional football running back. He played college football for the USC Trojans, earning consensus All-American honors twice and winning the 2005 Heisman Trophy. Bush is widely regarded as one of the greatest college football players of all time. He was selected by the New Orleans Saints second overall in the 2006 NFL draft. Bush was named an All-Pro punt returner in 2008 and helped the Saints win Super Bowl XLIV in 20 Alleg...

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> The NCAA found that, given Bush’s high-profile status, USC should have invested more effort in monitoring Bush’s relationships. In announcing the penalties, NCAA infractions committee chairman Paul Dee said, “High-profile players merit high-profile enforcement.”[14]

And another:

> **[Derrick Rose](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Rose)**
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> Derrick Martell Rose (born October 4, 1988) is an American former professional basketball player. He played one year of college basketball for the Memphis Tigers before being drafted first overall by his hometown Chicago Bulls in the 2008 NBA draft. Nicknamed "D-Rose", and sometimes referred to as "the Windy City Assassin" or "Pooh", he was named the NBA Rookie of the Year in 2009 and became the youngest player to win the NBA Most Valuable Player Award in 2011 at the age of 22 years and 7 m Ro...

And this:

> **[St. Bonaventure University | Athletics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bonaventure_University#Athletics)**
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> St. Bonaventure is an NCAA Division I member of the Atlantic 10 Conference and offers 19 varsity athletic programs. The school's programs are known as the Bonnies. The men's team has reached the NCAA men's basketball tournament a total of 8 times, most recently in the 2020–2021 season.

And of course this:

> **[Dave Bliss](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Bliss)**
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> David Gregory Bliss (born September 20, 1943) is an American basketball coach. He served as the head men's basketball coach at Oklahoma, Southern Methodist, New Mexico, and Baylor of the NCAA Division I, as well as Southwestern Christian of the NAIA.
> Bliss resigned from Baylor in 2003 following internal and NCAA investigations into a number of circumstances surrounding the murder of Baylor player Patrick Dennehy by teammate Carlton Dotson. These included the alleged involvement of Bliss in mak...

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/byu-player-booted-from-team-for-having-sex/573309/20 "2011-03-03T19:38:22Z")

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And now he’ll be forced to go to the NBA, where the players certainly don’t have access to all the groupies they could ever want.

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