# C-130 Hercules cargo plane turns 60

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 8, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121 "2015-04-08T13:51:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![JHBoom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/13edae/32.png) [@JHBoom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JHBoom)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2017, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/41 "2017-07-26T04:33:46Z")

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> [@Bumbershoot](#):
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> [C130 JATO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLFB7q8tyd8) What a ride that must be!

I got to ride on the flight deck of Fat Albert during their Sunday demo flight at the Rochester Air Show in 2000, JATO takeoff and all. It was a hell of a ride; to this day, it’s one of my most treasured memories.

Back in the previous century I flew from PA to CA in a Marine KC-130, with a stop at a small airport in Kansas City for a splash of fuel and 3 large trays of barbecue. It was odd seeing the delivery driver completely unfazed by carrying 3 trays of barbecue from his car to a C-130… until one of the -130 pilots told us later in the flight that this particular airport (whose name has unfortunately been bumped from my memory since then) had A LOT of transient traffic because the FBO would take your order over the radio before you landed, and the barbecue place would deliver plane-side.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/42 "2019-02-06T05:17:02Z")

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Bumped.

Want a keychain tag made of genuine C-130A fuselage material?: [https://www.sportys.com/wrightbros/lockheed-c-130a-hercules-plane-tag.html](https://www.sportys.com/wrightbros/lockheed-c-130a-hercules-plane-tag.html)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/43 "2020-10-11T02:04:16Z")

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Bumped.

Just came across this pic of a USCG Herc over an iceberg: [International Ice Patrol - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Ice_Patrol#/media/File:USCG_International_Ice_Patrol_C-130.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/44 "2020-10-11T09:06:15Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/iMo9N5uFwXk/maxresdefault.jpg "ANTARCTICA: Hercules C-130. US-Air Force. McMurdo to Casey Station") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMo9N5uFwXk)

This guy could probably land on the iceberg.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/45 "2020-10-11T12:17:42Z")

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amazing defense contractors have not bribed enough people to get new models built

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/46 "2020-10-11T16:20:36Z")

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Thanks for the video, **Bear**. I definitely wouldn’t want to be behind that pallet of cargo when it started rolling out. Anyone know how much the nonretractable landing skids slow the plane?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/47 "2020-10-11T18:05:30Z")

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My two childhood friends both ride these beasts. One was a co-pilot in Alaska, the other is a flight engineer on a fire bomber. Interesting stories from both these guys.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/48 "2020-10-11T20:22:04Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Thanks for the video, **Bear**.

It’s neat with those skis, but I always prefer that they don’t land at all. There are better ways to ride a C-130 into the Arctic:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2I2u7Y8dfrM/maxresdefault.jpg "Army Paratroopers Jump Into the Arctic") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I2u7Y8dfrM)

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**Post date:** [October 11, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/49 "2020-10-11T20:23:08Z")

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Hey cool @JerrySTL. My dad was stationed at RAF Lakenheath 75-77 and RAF Upper Heyford 81-86. While I’ve sat in the cockpit of an F-111E, and walked around the cargo bay of a Hercules and C-5 Galaxy, I’ve not had the honor of flying in one. Happy birthday Herc!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2020, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/50 "2020-11-21T19:53:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> …Anyone know how much the nonretractable landing skids slow the plane?

Any takers?

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/51 "2020-11-22T01:34:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Any takers?

No idea. But they do retract a bit.  
What’s interesting is that the Air force lists the cruise speed of the LC-130H as [350mph](https://www.109aw.ang.af.mil/About/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/449363/lc-130-hercules/), whereas the C-130H has an advertised cruise speed of 336mph. There are C-130 variants that advertise speeds over 400mph. But that’s going to be higher altitude performance. From a practical level, I don’t think any C-130 regularly flies over 300mph, especially full of cargo. So the skis are going to reduce efficiency, but not actually decrease their normal operating speed. But it’s all just a guess. I don’t really know the full effect of those skis.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/52 "2020-11-22T02:27:22Z")

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A private Learjet makes no sense. A private C-130 seems to be a much better choice.

I wonder why no airliner variant ever hit it big.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/53 "2020-11-22T21:24:28Z")

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> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#):
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> A private Learjet makes no sense. A private C-130 seems to be a much better choice…

For what?

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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/54 "2020-11-23T01:23:31Z")

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Once I win the lottery, my wife and I can fly to obscure yarn stores in the Falkland Islands and bring the jeep with us.

As for an airliner, I would imagine it could provide service to rough fields in tourist areas, or simply to remote settlements. On the other hand I realize that such calculations are complex and I am sure Smart People have already the numbers.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/55 "2020-11-23T02:58:47Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> For what?

Do you know how cool a private C-130 would be? Just ‘In Your Face-Ness’.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/56 "2020-11-23T20:45:04Z")

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It’d need a _lot_ of work to be as comfy as a Learjet, and it’d never be as fast.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/57 "2020-11-26T15:25:14Z")

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But then again you cannot jump a Learjet.

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/58 "2020-11-26T19:02:36Z")

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Nor can you carry a car in it.

Brian

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/59 "2021-06-11T13:42:01Z")

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Bumped.

Just came across a reference to this Herc theft:

> **[1969 theft of C-130](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_theft_of_C-130)**
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> Pages for logged out editors learn more
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> 			 
> The 1969 theft of a C-130 from RAF Mildenhall happened on 23 May 1969.
> Sergeant Paul Meyer was an aircraft mechanic in the United States Air Force. At the age of 23 he was already a Vietnam veteran. He had married earlier that year and was close to his wife and stepchildren. He had flashbacks and was homesick and unhappy. He also was drinking heavily.
> A few days before the theft he'd requested to be transferred from Mildenhall to Langley Air Fo...

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**Post date:** [June 12, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-130-hercules-cargo-plane-turns-60/717121/60 "2021-06-12T00:32:34Z")

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A J Herc is going to run you North of $100 million before you send it off to get a custom interior.  
I’ve had lots of time in the belly of the beast when I was in the Air Force. One of the best naps I ever had was after a TD in Inuvik flying back to Cold Lake kipped out on top of the luggage.

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