# C K Dexter Haven, Come on Down

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 13, 2005, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828 "2005-02-13T03:57:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LordVor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@LordVor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LordVor)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/21 "2005-02-13T04:55:26Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Give me a fucking break. I thought I was dealing with an adult here.
> 
> My bad.

Like you’re being a freaken adult about this? “Jerkwad”? Do people over 12 still use this word?

You’re so desprate to be on the other side of a pile-on that you jump in and attack me for supposedly “jerkish” behavior, then won’t back it up when I ask for an example and respond with petty insults instead. Then when I win the insult battle, you play the “I’m being an adult” card? Bullshit. Go start a thread about Bush ass-fucking the EPA or something.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/22 "2005-02-13T05:00:02Z")

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> [@LordVor](#):
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> Like you’re being a freaken adult about this? “Jerkwad”? Do people over 12 still use this word?
> 
> You’re so desprate to be on the other side of a pile-on that you jump in and attack me for supposedly “jerkish” behavior, then won’t back it up when I ask for an example and respond with petty insults instead. Then when I win the insult battle, you play the “I’m being an adult” card? Bullshit. Go start a thread about Bush ass-fucking the EPA or something.

Nah…  
Put’s **Ten Years after** On.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/23 "2005-02-13T05:01:52Z")

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You are just a little troublemaker.  
You ain’t worth my fucking time.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/24 "2005-02-13T05:04:25Z")

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Can we start over and pretend this thread wasn’t here?

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/25 "2005-02-13T05:06:33Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> Can we start over and pretend this thread wasn’t here?

Does that mean I have to turn Alvin Lee off?

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/26 "2005-02-13T05:07:56Z")

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Settle down you two.

As to the OP I agree it is a bit disconcerting that an adminstrator doesn’t understand the severity of the privacy breach. It is even more disconcerting that said administratior decided that this privacy breach was fertile grounds for jokes. I along with many members of this board are pissed about this. An administrator joking about it is a bad show indeed. Certainly is a reflection on the boards refound commitment to privacy in a decidingly negative fashion.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/27 "2005-02-13T05:09:47Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Does that mean I have to turn Alvin Lee off?

rewind. Actually, I’m in the mood for AC/DC right now.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/28 "2005-02-13T05:13:02Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> Settle down you two.
> 
> As to the OP I agree it is a bit disconcerting that an adminstrator doesn’t understand the severity of the privacy breach. It is even more disconcerting that said administratior decided that this privacy breach was fertile grounds for jokes. I along with many members of this board are pissed about this. An administrator joking about it is a bad show indeed. Certainly is a reflection on the boards refound commitment to privacy in a decidingly negative fashion.

I couldn’t care less about this thread.

But this jerkwad couldn’t even wait until things were settled before he opened his damn mouth.

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**Author:** ![LordVor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@LordVor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LordVor)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/29 "2005-02-13T05:20:16Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> Can we start over and pretend this thread wasn’t here?

One sentence from Dex stating in no uncertain terms that he understands that what she did was wrong and is able to explain why it was wrong, and I’ll go away. I wouldn’t be posting this if I honestly felt, after reading all of the threads visible and invisible, as well as email to me from him, that he feels that **Tuba** did wrong.

**Reeder** , this time I’m going to try asking you nicely. Please quit shitting on my thread. If you find yourself unable to stop shitting on my thread, could you at least keep it consistant? Am I not worth your time, or am I worthy of continued false accusations? Or perhaps you could describe in what universe is “just wondering how long ‘or so’ is” not keeping my mouth shut about the details of the unpleasentness?

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/30 "2005-02-13T05:23:26Z")

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Everywhere is freaks and hairies  
\*\*\*Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity  
Tax the rich, feed the poor  
Till there are no rich no more

I’d love to change the world  
But I don’t know what to do  
So I’ll leave it up to you  
Population keeps on breeding  
Nation bleeding, still more feeding economy  
Life is funny, skies are sunny  
Bees make honey, who needs money, Monopoly  
I’d love to change the world  
But I don’t know what to do  
So I’ll leave it up to you\*\*\*

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/31 "2005-02-13T05:25:40Z")

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It’s all about **Alvin Lee’s** guitar.

Isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/32 "2005-02-13T05:26:01Z")

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**Reeder** , you’re just being a schmuck now.

Towards the OP: I also want to make sure that all the SDMB staff is for the privacy policy, and not just giving it lipservice.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/33 "2005-02-13T05:27:23Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> **Reeder** , you’re just being a schmuck now.
> 
> Towards the OP: I also want to make sure that all the SDMB staff is for the privacy policy, and not just giving it lipservice.

My bad.

Your advice I respect.

I’m done.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/34 "2005-02-13T05:28:38Z")

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I’m totally confused here. On the one hand, I’m inclined to agree with **LordVor** ’s statements, to a certain extent. On the other hand, I’m not sure if I’m supposed to be listening to **Megadeth** or **Motorhead** right now. Can someone help me out?

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**Author:** ![LordVor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@LordVor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LordVor)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/35 "2005-02-13T05:31:07Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Playing the equivalent of an annoying game of “I’m not touching you” with admins is not a particulary wise thing to do.

Good advice if I was a newbie. I’ve been posting here for 4 years, lurking 2 before that. I know what gets people warned, what gets people banned. Nothing that I’ve posted before this thread was anywhere near worthy of a formal warning, in my opinion at the time I posted it and in the opinion of the administration and moderators who didn’t warn me after I posted it. I did have a pretty good feeling that that thread would get locked, but not after I got an answer, so that’s why I started it. And that was my first locked thread in those four years.

This thread, I feel pretty much the same way about. Will it get locked? Probably. Will I get warned? Probably not. Will I get my answer? Yes.

-lv

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/36 "2005-02-13T05:31:12Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> I’m totally confused here. On the one hand, I’m inclined to agree with **LordVor** ’s statements, to a certain extent. On the other hand, I’m not sure if I’m supposed to be listening to **Megadeth** or **Motorhead** right now. Can someone help me out?

No…

Alvin Lee and Ten Years After.

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**Author:** ![35340](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/8baadc/32.png) [@35340](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/35340)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/37 "2005-02-13T05:31:22Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> **Reeder** , you’re just being a schmuck now.
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> Towards the OP: I also want to make sure that all the SDMB staff is for the privacy policy, and not just giving it lipservice.

I take issue with your use of the word “now” as a qualifier.  
Even IP information can be sensitive, as a Banned Person’s Whose Handle I Dare Not Mention pointed out. At this point, I think that the SDMB’s attitude towards our privacy in regards to actions vs stated policies is even worse than our last trip to Belgium.

2% is preposterous, Dex. Without it, not many give a flying furck about your other 98%.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/38 "2005-02-13T05:49:09Z")

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> [@LordVor](#):
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> Good advice if I was a newbie. I’ve been posting here for 4 years, lurking 2 before that. I know what gets people warned, what gets people banned. Nothing that I’ve posted before this thread was anywhere near worthy of a formal warning, in my opinion at the time I posted it and in the opinion of the administration and moderators who didn’t warn me after I posted it. I did have a pretty good feeling that that thread would get locked, but not after I got an answer, so that’s why I started it. And that was my first locked thread in those four years.
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> This thread, I feel pretty much the same way about. Will it get locked? Probably. Will I get warned? Probably not. Will I get my answer? Yes.
> 
> -lv

I’m glad you’ve got the administrative tripwires all worked out, but honestly is it really worth beating on Dex like a conga drum because he seems insufficiently contrite for your tastes? This is a delicate situation where Ed Zotti himself has asked for restraint . Wouldn’t it be better to wait till the dust settles just a bit before launching another salvo, even on a peripheral (by your definition) issue.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/39 "2005-02-13T05:54:00Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> I’m glad you’ve got the administrative tripwires all worked out, but honestly is it really worth beating on Dex like a conga drum because he seems insufficiently contrite for your tastes? This is a delicate situation where Ed Zotti himself has asked for restraint . Wouldn’t it be better to wait till the dust settles just a bit before launching another salvo, even on a peripheral (by your definition) issue.

Forgive me **FinnAgain**  
But exactly. Very well said **Astro**.  
All he’s doing is stoking the fire. And he should be called on it.

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**Author:** ![LordVor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@LordVor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LordVor)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-come-on-down/289828/40 "2005-02-13T05:56:47Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be better to wait till the dust settles just a bit before launching another salvo, even on a peripheral (by your definition) issue.

Perhaps. But since I can’t go back in time (particularly since it looks like this trainwreck’s been spotted), I might as well wait around for my answer. While we’re waiting, maybe **Reeder** can entertain us with another song?

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