# C K Dexter Haven: WTF? (mild) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364 "2008-11-12T16:08:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/21 "2008-11-12T19:37:53Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > **Dex** , if I had made some stupid joke based on Orpheus, I am just completely confused. (And/or out of it.) Who’s Orpheus and why would a stupid joke based on him be cause for warning? -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/22 "2008-11-12T19:42:19Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > I can’t figure out how **Polycarp** ’s words would be an insult even ignoring the biblical reference. What would the insult have been supposed to be? I believe this was addressed by Dex’s comment “If you really want to know, e-mail me.” ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/23 "2008-11-12T19:47:45Z")
> [@TommyTutone](#): > > It reminds me of that great movie, ‘The Philadelphia Story’ where some dumbass ends up falling in love with the woman he once divorced. What a buffoon! I demand that you retract this grievious libel aginst our fine moderator and…ummm…nevermind… ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/24 "2008-11-12T19:49:30Z")
> [@wring](#): > > For **Poly** the default position is, I believe, that he’s making a biblical reference. > > Even when he’s ordering a cheeseburger. Hamburger, yes. Cheeseburger? Never. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/25 "2008-11-12T19:51:40Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > I believe this was addressed by Dex’s comment “If you really want to know, e-mail me.” I’m going to second this. Let’s just say that (a) given the backstory, which I happen to know and which is truly tragic in the literal real-world sense, I fully understand why **Dex** might be hypersensitive to an apparent bit of snark involving something he and **Euty** worked on together, and (b) _I did not intend any snark whatsoever_. It was one of my puns which misfired badly. Anyone wno wants to know more, e-mail **Dex**. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/26 "2008-11-12T19:53:53Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > In **Dex** ’s defense, he is of Jewish faith, and might not get the reference to the Eutychus character in Acts that I intended. Heck, I’m sure that even most Christians would not recognize the name Eutychus from the Bible. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/27 "2008-11-12T19:54:17Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > For whatever it’s worth, you’re completely wrong. We forget to do the “mod hat” type stuff sometimes, but not all admonitions are warnings and we try to make the distinction clear. **Dex** did not describe his post as a warning and didn’t make any note of it, so it looks like it was not a warning. I can show you, if you really care, that I am not wrong. I believe the messages from the incident are still in my PM box, if I did not delete them to make room. In fact, it was a milder admonition (no “mod hat on” type verbiage) from **Dex** himself that I’m referring to. Perhaps it would be more accurate if I’d said “can be” instead of “is”, but it’s a small difference at most. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/28 "2008-11-12T20:01:46Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > I can show you, if you really care, that I am not wrong. Doesn’t really matter to me. Despite slipups, which do happen, not every admonition from a mod is a formal warning. If the posts contain other language that are equivalent to words like “formal warning,” without using those exact words, then yes, it’s still a warning. But that doesn’t describe every “mod hat on” situation. And generalities aside it’s pretty clear that post isn’t a warning. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/29 "2008-11-12T20:06:45Z")
I think we can defenestrate the whole controversy at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/30 "2008-11-12T20:43:16Z")
> [@wring](#): > > For **Poly** the default position is, I believe, that he’s making a biblical reference. > > Even when he’s ordering a cheeseburger. Seeing as Dex is the jewish one, I believe it would be his joke in that scenario. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/31 "2008-11-12T20:51:37Z")
I seem to recall a rule about not mocking someone’s user name. Was that this message board? If so, can someone point me to a cite, as I canna find the rules at the moment? ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/32 "2008-11-12T20:55:47Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > not every admonition from a mod is a formal warning. Exactly. We do Moderator Notes and Formal Warnings. I try to do these things as a separate post so that I can use the title of the post to identify which it is. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/33 "2008-11-12T21:34:25Z")
> [@Syntropy](#): > > Hamburger, yes. Cheeseburger? Never. Hamburger puns, sir, would be truly Wimpy. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/34 "2008-11-12T21:45:33Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > For whatever it’s worth, you’re completely wrong. We forget to do the “mod hat” type stuff sometimes, but not all admonitions are warnings and we try to make the distinction clear. **Dex** did not describe his post as a warning and didn’t make any note of it, so it looks like it was not a warning. > [@Marley23](#): > > Doesn’t really matter to me. Despite slipups, which do happen, not every admonition from a mod is a formal warning. If the posts contain other language that are equivalent to words like “formal warning,” without using those exact words, then yes, it’s still a warning. But that doesn’t describe every “mod hat on” situation. And generalities aside it’s pretty clear that post isn’t a warning. > [@Gfactor](#): > > Exactly. We do Moderator Notes and Formal Warnings. I try to do these things as a separate post so that I can use the title of the post to identify which it is. Is there a legend posted somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/35 "2008-11-12T21:50:15Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > I think we can defenestrate the whole controversy at this point. Thank goodness. I’ve had to poop since I started reading this. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/36 "2008-11-12T22:18:50Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Is there a legend posted somewhere? Ooh, I hope so. I love tall tales! ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/37 "2008-11-12T22:24:59Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > Ooh, I hope so. I love tall tales! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/38 "2008-11-12T22:38:56Z")
My basic reation is: oh, sheeeeee-it. My bad. I did not recollect that the historic/mythic Eutychus did actually fall out of an actual window; instead, I thought **Polycarp** ’s comment was a snide reference to our member **Eutychus**. Color me embarrassed and stupid. I have apologized in the initial thread, and I apologize here. Yeah, I’ll use my Jewish lack-of-familiarity with the New Testament as an explanation, that’s a lot better than just a totally senior moment and memory failure. In any case, I was well and thoroughly whooshed. Thanks to all those who sent Personal Messages, although I would have seen email earlier. I’m not on the Message Boards 24/7, I check my email more frequently than I check the boards. For future, so y’all know. Can we close this thread now? ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/39 "2008-11-12T23:30:48Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I seem to recall a rule about not mocking someone’s user name. Was that this message board? If so, can someone point me to a cite, as I canna find the rules at the moment? That may or may not have been a general rule. It started, I think, when someone (perhaps **Liberal** himself) took exception to people referring to **Liberal** as **Liberaltarian** , a conflation of his current and former usernames. There was some confusion (and at least one major Pit thread) about whether there was a rule against mocking someone’s user name, and if so, if it applied only to “Liberaltarian” or to any similar construction for any other user. In any case, this incident surely doesn’t fall under such a rule, since referring to **Euty** as “whatsisname that fell out the window” hardly qualifies as mocking. It’s more along the lines of if, say, we had a user named James T. Kirk, and another poster, failing to remember this name but vaguely recalling the pop culture reference, referred to him as “whatsisname that commanded the Starship Enterprise”. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364/40 "2008-11-12T23:32:20Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Can we close this thread now? Thanks for coming forward with that apology! As the original poster I’m happy with the thread being closed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/c-k-dexter-haven-wtf-mild/472364.md?page=1)