# CA/AZ/FL Gay Marriage Balloting Reaction Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 4, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073 "2008-11-04T16:40:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/201 "2008-11-07T04:19:41Z")
And last stop on the Prop 8 trifecta of sharing this topical article: [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110603880.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110603880.html) ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/202 "2008-11-07T04:21:38Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > And last stop on the Prop 8 trifecta of sharing this topical article: > > [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110603880.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110603880.html) Your link doesn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/203 "2008-11-07T04:26:51Z")
Crap. Now I’ve gotta fix it in three places. I swear it worked. Try [this](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603880.html?referrer=emailarticle). ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/204 "2008-11-07T05:23:40Z")
Sorry, that wasn’t actually a rally. It was more of a press release. The real protest is tomorrow, Nov. 7, at 9 PM. Please PM me if you want details. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/205 "2008-11-09T07:07:03Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > The people who voted yes caused the vote to be lost. The yes on 8 people caused the vote to be lost. . How about the people who should have voted “NO” but couldn’t get off their lazy asses to vote? Note that the voter turnout in SF county was disgraceful, and much below some counties who voted heavily “yes”. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/206 "2008-11-09T10:12:55Z")
```auto San Francisco 296367 / 764,976 = 0.38741999749011733701449457237874 San Diego 1033188 / 2,974,859 = 0.34730654461270265246184777160867 Kern 193753 / 661,645 = 0.29283528175985611619524065019761 San Bernadino 474478 / 2,007,800 = 0.2363173622870803864926785536408 Orange County 916025 / 3,121,251 = 0.29348008218499569563614076535338 ``` I’m not going to do this all night. These numbers speak for themselves: of the five counties I bothered to check, of which all but San Francisco passed Proposition 8, San Francisco had the highest turnout as a percentage of its population. Do you have a cite for your extraordinary claim? I’m starting to wonder, by the way: Why are you so determined to lay the blame at our feet? ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/207 "2008-11-09T10:26:29Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > How about the people who should have voted “NO” but couldn’t get off their lazy asses to vote? Note that the voter turnout in SF county was disgraceful, and much below some counties who voted heavily “yes”. Yes them too. 🙂 But not the “badly behaving gays”. Or even the smear campaign. They had some effect obviously, but both were inevitable, and ultimately the responsibility falls on the voters. I think the “more minorities coming out to vote for Obama” might have had a large effect too. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/208 "2008-11-09T18:10:53Z")
Your numbers compare % as a % of population. SF is a somewhat older county, demographic-wise. What you need to compare is turnout as a % of registered voters: [http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/status.htm](http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/status.htm) SF= 63 % (It has gone up a fair amount since I first checked) LA County (a Yes county) = 66% San Diego (Yes)= 71% Statewide its 64%. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/209 "2008-11-09T22:02:02Z")
Yeah, SF looks about equivalent to the statewide average, and nearby No counties (like Santa Clara, Santa Cruz etc.) had very high voter turnout. A lot of those %s are deceptive, anyway, since a **lot** of Yes counties have really small populations. ETA: However, I’ll take your word for it that the SF turnout looked low when you first checked. Vote counting in California can be a bit strange at times. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/210 "2008-11-10T03:12:44Z")
> [@Hostile\_Dialect](#): > > Yeah, SF looks about equivalent to the statewide average, and nearby No counties (like Santa Clara, Santa Cruz etc.) had very high voter turnout. A lot of those %s are deceptive, anyway, since a **lot** of Yes counties have really small populations. > > ETA: However, I’ll take your word for it that the SF turnout looked low when you first checked. Vote counting in California can be a bit strange at times. It can and I read that SF was slow, but Thurs it showed them at a paltry 50-odd %. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/211 "2008-11-10T18:57:20Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Crap. Now I’ve gotta fix it in three places. I swear it worked. > > Try [this](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603880.html?referrer=emailarticle). Reading that article, I’m pleasantly surprised that the Latino vote was only 53% in favor of the ban. I thought it would be much higher in that demographic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073.md?page=10)