# CA/AZ/FL Gay Marriage Balloting Reaction Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 4, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073 "2008-11-04T16:40:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/61 "2008-11-05T01:02:35Z")

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Do the states that prohibit marriage between first cousins recognize the marriage of cousins when performed in a state that does allow this?

For example (and states used for example are based on my quickie check of the marriage cousin laws), if cousins legally married in say, Texas, were to move to Iowa, would their marriage be recognized as legal?

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/62 "2008-11-05T01:17:04Z")

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The amendment requires the State of California to recognize only marriages between one man and one woman. Existing gay/same-sex marriages may continue to exist in some metaphysical way, but would have no legal effect in California – unless someone has a sneaky way to read that amendment that’s not obvious in the language.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/63 "2008-11-05T02:23:05Z")

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I just got back from voting no on 8 and it felt damn good.

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**Author:** ![Amulet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@Amulet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amulet)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/64 "2008-11-05T02:34:00Z")

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It looks like Amendment 2 is going to pass in Florida. ☹ Right now “yes” has 63% of the votes counted.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/65 "2008-11-05T04:15:53Z")

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Arizona is toast as well.

Ugh. Well, I’d rather Obama appoint the judges on the Supreme Court who will have to decide same sex marriage.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/66 "2008-11-05T04:17:18Z")

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CA is showing 57% voting yes on 8, but only 2% reporting. I hope it’s a fluke.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/67 "2008-11-05T04:25:43Z")

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Looking at the LA Times most of the results are coming from San Diego county. So, that’s some hope.

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**Author:** ![Anduinel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Anduinel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduinel)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/68 "2008-11-05T04:29:29Z")

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I fucking hate this state sometimes.

And it looks like Arkansas doesn’t want gays adopting, either.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/69 "2008-11-05T04:29:52Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Arizona is toast as well.

Dammit, dammit, dammit. I was really hoping we would fight it back. Pima County did what it could. I miss Tucson.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/70 "2008-11-05T04:31:36Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Looking at the LA Times most of the results are coming from San Diego county. So, that’s some hope.

True, nothing from LA, SF or Marin counties. there’s still hope.

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**Author:** ![Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glory)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/71 "2008-11-05T04:36:04Z")

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I’m terrified to watch, I want Prop 8 to fail so badly.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/72 "2008-11-05T04:37:09Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Dammit, dammit, dammit. I was really hoping we would fight it back. Pima County did what it could. I miss Tucson.

I wonder if that last poll showing Arizona in play woke the sleeping giant? I don’t like the result, but I also know the issue would have been back in 2010. As happy as I am tonight, I also know there will be a backlash. Tonight is the Dems payback for 1994.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/73 "2008-11-05T04:51:02Z")

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I realize they don’t mean a whole lot, but exit polls are showing prop 8 losing. (I’m just trying to hope here!)

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/74 "2008-11-05T04:52:05Z")

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I’m crying tears of joy over Obama, but I feel like I’m going to puke over Prop 8. Please, please, please CA, don’t let it pass!

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/75 "2008-11-05T04:53:19Z")

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I’m looking at the LA times and it only shows results coming in from San Diego. Zero precent from San Francisco.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/76 "2008-11-05T04:54:45Z")

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54/46 with 10 percent reporting. It’s closing up.

Please CA, please. I really want to get married!

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/77 "2008-11-05T04:57:20Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> 54/46 with 10 percent reporting. It’s closing up.
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> Please CA, please. I really want to get married!

I really want you to get married, too!

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**Author:** ![PopeJewish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@PopeJewish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PopeJewish)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/78 "2008-11-05T05:32:59Z")

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This really could be a bittersweet day. I’m absolutely incredulous (in a GREAT way) that Obama won, but if Prop 8 passes it will definitely make me sad. As an historian, the whole idea of the “sanctity” of marriage is laughable at best. I basically view anti-gay marriage along the same lines as being anti-mixed race marriage (which they said would destroy the fundamentals of our country’s morality, sound familiar?) or being against women voting (which they said would destroy the fundamentals of our country’s morality, seeing a pattern?) It would pain me quite deeply to see my beloved state fall to bigotry.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/79 "2008-11-05T05:38:17Z")

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Still 54/46 with 18% in. It’s still early.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca-az-fl-gay-marriage-balloting-reaction-thread/471073/80 "2008-11-05T05:45:55Z")

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So this is where y’all are hiding. Back to gnawing on my fingers…

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