# Cafe Society Confessions: What's yours?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 8, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345 "2017-02-08T19:48:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/81 "2017-02-09T16:38:02Z")

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I love the Brian Herbert \*Dune \*books.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/82 "2017-02-09T16:55:08Z")

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I love the blues, acoustic and electric, and almost every artist I respect claims him as a seminal influence, but I don’t like Robert Johnson one bit. I have tried and tried and failed.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/83 "2017-02-09T17:00:05Z")

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Well, I’ve never been shy about giving unpopular opinions here. Some include:

**Alien** and **Gattaca** only work if everyone involved is a moron.  
**The Seinfeld Chronicles** was promising, but once it became a regular show, it was terribly unfunny (and Jason Alexander has ruined everything he’s ever done).

**Ishtar** doesn’t deserve the scorn it gets. It’s not perfect, but much of it is pretty damn funny and a few scenes reach comic greatness.

I don’t care much for Tom Petty or CCR, though I can see their popularity. Their songs just leave me cold.

Renaissance was a great group until Annie Haslam joined.

**A Midsummer’s Night Sex Comedy** is one of Woody Allen’s best. Most people were confused, thinking it was a comedy. It wasn’t – the title was completely ironic; it’s about some very desperate people trying to find connections.

Keanu Reeves is underrated, and made some great movies (though **The Matrix** isn’t one of them).

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/84 "2017-02-09T17:18:15Z")

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I put ketchup or peanut butter on hot dogs, and I prefer milk chocolate to dark. And I eat pizza crust-first.

Every once in a while, about once in 5-10 years, I buy a bag of circus peanuts. As soon as I put one in my mouth I’m reminded of how vile they are, and I throw the rest out.

Several years ago, it was brought to my attention that I didn’t own one song by the Rolling Stones. So I bought _Forty Licks,_ their double “best of” album. There isn’t one song that I ever want to hear again.

Of the various Star Trek series, my least favorite is the original (in spite of Leonard Nimoy).

I still occasionally re-read Ayn Rand.

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**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/85 "2017-02-09T17:45:45Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> - I don’t like art that makes me feel bad, or focuses on exploring fucked-up emotions. Lordy that sounds immature, but I remember finishing Scorsese’s _Goodfellas_ and thinking “man that was brilliant, but I _never_ want to experience that again.” I will never forgive David Fincher for Se7en.

Agreed, and that’s the reason I avoid all horror films, and most suspense movies. And I worked for months with David Fincher, and I’ll also never forgive him for Se7en, nor especially for his behavior.  
When I was a kid, Neil Diamond and Gordon Lightfoot made bad music for old people. Now that I’m middle aged, their stuff seems to have improved considerably.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/86 "2017-02-09T17:50:01Z")

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> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#):
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> Agreed, and that’s the reason I avoid all horror films, and most suspense movies. And I worked for months with David Fincher, and I’ll also never forgive him for Se7en, nor especially for his behavior.

Story, please?

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**Author:** ![Theodore\_Striker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Theodore\_Striker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theodore_Striker)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/87 "2017-02-09T18:12:45Z")

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so a few…

I will usually eat at Olive Garden once every few weeks, and will enjoy it… same goes for some other generic chain places. i know it’s not great food, fine dining, or even remotely authentic, but sometimes it just works.

I am personally obliged to listen to the Guns N Roses song Paradise City as loudly as possible whenever it comes on. Early G’N’R had Zeppelin like potential. I would have given my left testicle when I was 12 years old to be Slash.

Led Zeppelin is the the greatest heavy metal band of all time. you may disagree, but you’re incorrect.

I will watch We Bare Bears if I see it on. I don’t care who else, if anyone, is home. I am going to be 41 years old next month.

Dumb and Dumber is a damn funny movie. Citizen Kane was meh.

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**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/88 "2017-02-09T18:18:15Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Story, please?

Either he’s an ass IRL, or he was taking an enormous chip off each shoulder when he got home from work. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/89 "2017-02-09T18:22:04Z")

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Ahem…  
I didn’t think Fargo was all that.

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**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/90 "2017-02-09T19:57:22Z")

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I consider myself an adventurous eater, and go out of my way to try local specialties wherever I happen to be, but I am never going to try hakarl, or surstromming, or that flying maggot cheese, or anything else that every single person that has eaten them reports as being beyond terrible.

I am smart enough to learn from the experiences of others, and there is no “foodie card” that needs to get those boxes checked.

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**Author:** ![Pabitel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbce88/32.png) [@Pabitel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pabitel)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/91 "2017-02-09T20:11:08Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> In a similar vein, my favorite artist is Bob Dylan, and I think that _Blowin’ In The Wind_ is one of his weakest songs. I once heard a radio interview with Van Morrison in which he was asked about _Brown Eyed Girl_, and he replied with something like :“What’s up with that song? I probably wrote 300 better ones.” And he was right, just like Dylan probably wrote 400 better songs than _Blowin’_.

_Blowin’ In The Wind_ isn’t important because it’s great art. It is known as the anthem of the civil rights movement.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/92 "2017-02-09T20:14:06Z")

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I don’t like Led Zeppelin, and I think the guitar work of Jimi Hendrix is just muddy noise.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/93 "2017-02-09T20:36:33Z")

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It ain’t pizza without anchovies.

> [@Marlonius](#):
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> I don’t understand musicals.

> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Does anyone?

Matt and Trey of \*South Park \*fame do! 😉

_Now get on your knees and put that heart to work…_

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/94 "2017-02-09T20:50:27Z")

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I should hate these bands, but Nickelback and Linkin Park are two of my guilty pleasures.

I’ve never seen _It’s a Wonderful Life_, and I don’t want to.

Harry Potter bores me to death. I couldn’t make it past the first book, and I fell asleep during the movie.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/95 "2017-02-09T20:56:16Z")

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> [@Theodore\_Striker](#):
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> Led Zeppelin is the the greatest heavy metal band of all time. you may disagree, but you’re incorrect.

I’ve come to two unpopular conclusions in the past couple months after purchasing LZIV on vinyl:

– It’s a better album if you leave of the first two cock-rock tracks. It transforms from a hard-rock/straight-ahead metal into an almost psychedelic metal album with a definite cohesiveness to it. Plus, in _that_ context:

– _Four Sticks_ is actually good! For some reason it didn’t gel with the rest of the album as a whole when Black Dog and r+r were on it. It’s still the weakest track but I don’t have the urge to skip over it.

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**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/96 "2017-02-09T21:07:32Z")

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I’ve never seen _Starship Troopers._

In fact, I’ve never seen any of the _Godfather_ movies. I’ve gotten about 15-20 minutes into the first one, get really bored, and go find something else to do/watch. Don’t really care for any sort of mob-related movies anyway.

I _hate_ musicals but I _love_ biopics about musicians, even if I don’t particularly care for the musician or his or her work.

I think Bob Dylan is a brilliant poet and songwriter but I cannot stand his music… unless someone else sings it. Same with Tom Petty, Neil Young, and Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins). Their voices just grate my last nerve.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/97 "2017-02-09T21:08:50Z")

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Similar to several other posters, I’ve not enjoyed TV series like The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Walking Dead, or Game of Thrones. I think that my issue is that I don’t particularly enjoy darker dramas, where it’s hard to find heroic characters (or when they tend to die off, like in Game of Thrones). I can see that they’re well-done shows, and well-regarded critically, but they just don’t appeal to me.

I tried to watch Game of Thrones (and tried to read the novels, too), as fantasy is right up my alley, but I just couldn’t stick with it – too grim, and any time a character showed up that I actually started to like, something horrible happened to them. Similarly, I really wanted to enjoy Mad Men, since I work in advertising, but after the first season, I realized that I found all of the characters to be simply awful people, and I really didn’t care what happened to them.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/98 "2017-02-09T21:09:57Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> As a young teen, I was waaaaaay too into the song [sometimes when we touch](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVf940pO5ME). I’m fortunate that my crooning of this tune to my girlfriend didn’t drive her away.
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> Though she still forbids me to sing it in her presence, over 4 decades later. And she’s right to do so.
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> I will sing “Brandy” in front of her, though.

> [@WordMan](#):
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> Oh **Qadgop** - oh no.
> 
> Brandy I can get behind, but that song? Yeah, that would be cause for revocation of your Man Card.

_Hands **WordMan** my Man Card_

That’s, like, my most favoritest song in the whole world.

😃

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/99 "2017-02-09T21:13:41Z")

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> [@Kron](#):
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> I don’t like Led Zeppelin, and I think the guitar work of Jimi Hendrix is just muddy noise.

This reminded me of my other contribution to make to this thread.

I don’t enjoy listening to Hendrix (despite playing electric guitar myself). I can absolutely understand why he’s generally regarded as the best rock guitarist ever, but I don’t like his music.

Similarly, I just don’t like Stevie Ray Vaughan (who’s also heavily worshipped in the guitarist community). I think that I’m just not a fan of Texas blues.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-confessions-whats-yours/779345/100 "2017-02-09T21:14:25Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> I wish someone would’ve told that to the Jim Morrison’s and Patti Smith’s of the world, and also Robert Mapplethorpe. Break some rules and some of the art is amazing. But i find the posing so tiresome that it becomes impossible to focus on the art.

Can I toss Jean-Luc Godard in there as well? I can’t find the critic’s quote, but a rough paraphrase was “The French New Wave kicked down the stifling walls of the Cinema of Quality, but whereas Truffaut and Rohmer went out to create new experiences with their newfound freedom, Godard stayed behind flailing his legs in the rubble pile.” I find much of his post-“Weekend” output is “Hey, look at what a rebel I am. I still haven’t sold out, unlike those other guys”.

I like Papa John’s pizza.

A properly mixed and mastered CD sounds better than any vinyl. “Warmth” is just confirmation bias.

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