# Café Society, or How Woody Allen Stole Our Name

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 11, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542 "2016-05-11T13:35:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/1 "2016-05-11T13:35:25Z")

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So, I’m kinda getting a kick out of the fact that Woody Allen’s newest movie is titled [_Café Society_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4513674/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1).  
I’ll think of the good ol’ SDMB every time I see the title.

I haven’t watched the trailer yet, but I still go to see his movies as they’re released no matter what- even though he’s been hit-or-miss for a while now. I do note that this one takes place in the 30s. I do like when he does period pieces. Also, Parker Posey is in it- no argument from me there. Corey Stoll is in it too. I had never seen him in anything until I saw him play Ernest Hemingway in Woody Allen’s _Midnight in Paris_ and he was an absolute highlight of the movie. So it will be good to see the two of them working together again.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/2 "2016-05-11T14:30:48Z")

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I’ve long suspected him for a lurker.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/3 "2016-05-11T14:37:24Z")

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We’ve never seen Woody and Colibri in the same room.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/4 "2016-05-11T15:06:21Z")

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Would explain why Colibri goes ballistic when anybody says anything nice about Mia Farrow.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/5 "2016-05-11T15:15:09Z")

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First in a series of films named after SDMB forums, I assume.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/6 "2016-05-11T15:35:47Z")

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Actually, the term “Café Society” was coined by Maury Henry Biddle Paul back in 1915. According to [this article,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caf%C3%A9_society)

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> Café society was the description of the “Beautiful People” and “Bright Young Things” who gathered in fashionable cafes and restaurants in New York, Paris, and London beginning in the late 19th century.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/7 "2016-05-11T15:59:39Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Actually, the term “Café Society” was coined by Maury Henry Biddle Paul back in 1915. According to [this article,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caf%C3%A9_society)

Yeah, I knew it well before I saw it here. That’s why I thought it fit so well for the disparate types of content.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/8 "2016-05-11T19:56:04Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> First in a series of films named after SDMB forums, I assume.

_Great Debates_: A bunch of nerds discuss the meaning of a life, things go awry when a small, skinny, neurotic New Yorker induces them to debate the definition of “Lie” and “Liar”.

_About This Message Board_: A very dense, self referential movie, “A movie about itself” say the critics…

_The BBQ Pit_: Co-Directed with Quentin Tarantino.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/9 "2016-05-11T19:59:47Z")

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\*The Barn House \*- Direct to DVD!

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/10 "2016-05-11T20:03:02Z")

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I’ve known the term long before coming here too, it’s far from obscure. In fact at first I thought the OP was being ironic when he talked of Allen stealing ‘our’ term.

More importantly, I wonder whether it will be a good movie. Woody Allen has been hit and miss for many years, with the misses outnumbering the hits by a large margin.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/11 "2016-05-11T20:09:39Z")

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_General Questions_: The life story of William P. Questions and his rise to power within the U.S. military.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/12 "2016-05-11T21:01:36Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> More importantly, I wonder whether it will be a good movie. Woody Allen has been hit and miss for many years, with the misses outnumbering the hits by a large margin.

Yes, but the hits can be great. I really, really liked Midnight in Paris, but didn’t like the followup set in Rome nearly as much. And he’s incredibly productive with a film just about every year.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/13 "2016-05-11T22:19:00Z")

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There’s already been a movie entitled [_The Pit_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086113/). Plot summary:

“Left with a baby sitter (Ed Zotti), a bad boy (Shodan) with a teddy bear finds a pit with four hungry moderators.”

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/14 "2016-05-11T22:59:26Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> So, I’m kinda getting a kick out of the fact that Woody Allen’s newest movie is titled [_Café Society_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4513674/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1).  
> I’ll think of the good ol’ SDMB every time I see the title.

“A Neurotic Masterpiece! Four Stars…!”  
Rated N for “nervous wreck” 😃

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/15 "2016-05-12T00:53:49Z")

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Interesting things about this movie:

Bruce Willis was fired and replaced by Steve Carell.

Several recent news stories say that Judy Davis is in the film, but the IMDb says she isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/16 "2016-05-12T13:27:52Z")

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In My Humble Opinion - A meek, mild mannered juror votes for acquittal, unlike his 11 co-jurors who want to hang the bastard. He keeps saying “In My Humble Opinion.”

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/17 "2016-05-12T14:06:22Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> _General Questions_: The life story of William P. Questions and his rise to power within the U.S. military.

Ah, I have long wondered whatever happened to little Billy Q. He really rose up in the world.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/18 "2016-05-12T14:38:10Z")

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This summer, a frustrated theatrical costumer who only ever wanted a shot at being a stage actor attempts to use his tailoring skills to prove a point.

CUT TO: Woody Allen, hunched over a sewing machine while ranting to his wife.  
CUT TO: Woody Allen, unconvincingly playing con man as a uniformed cop.  
CUT TO: Woody Allen, on a military base in an Admiral’s dress whites.  
CUT TO: Woody Allen, in full regalia as the Pope.

Woody Allen: “Shakespeare says that clothes make the man.”  
Julie Kavner: “Shakespeare never said that.”  
Woody Allen: “Well, he should have.”  
Julie Kavner: “I think it was Mark Twain.”  
Woody Allen: “It doesn’t matter. I, uh, _I_ make the clothes that make the man.”

_Thread Games_.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/19 "2016-05-12T16:05:15Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> “A Neurotic Masterpiece! Four Stars…!”  
> Rated N for “nervous wreck” 😃

Ned Flanders: “You know, I like his films except for that nervous fellow who’s always in them.”

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-or-how-woody-allen-stole-our-name/754542/20 "2016-05-13T02:29:01Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> This summer, a frustrated theatrical costumer who only ever wanted a shot at being a stage actor attempts to use his tailoring skills to prove a point.
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> CUT TO: Woody Allen, hunched over a sewing machine while ranting to his wife.  
> CUT TO: Woody Allen, unconvincingly playing con man as a uniformed cop.  
> CUT TO: Woody Allen, on a military base in an Admiral’s dress whites.  
> CUT TO: Woody Allen, in full regalia as the Pope.
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> Woody Allen: “Shakespeare says that clothes make the man.”  
> Julie Kavner: “Shakespeare never said that.”  
> Woody Allen: “Well, he should have.”  
> Julie Kavner: “I think it was Mark Twain.”  
> Woody Allen: “It doesn’t matter. I, uh, _I_ make the clothes that make the man.”
> 
> _Thread Games_.

Seen it. It was the one that taught me to never, ever, see another Woody Allen movie, including the ones I kinda liked, figuring that after seeing that disaster I’d notice all the glaring flaws. Except maybe Broadway Danny Rose, 'cuz it has Corbett Monica and Sandy Baron, and who doesn’t like a little Corbett Monica and Sandy Baron?

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