# Cafe Society peeves **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930 "2010-03-18T20:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/41 "2010-03-19T07:04:41Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Now that the “topical forum” concept has proven its utility with the addition of the Game Room – meaning Cafe Society is no longer a single unique exception – any chance you guys can revisit putting food threads in MPSIMS where (I would think) they so clearly belong? The very existence of the Game Room torpedoes the main argument against doing it, so the board climate has changed enough that the outcome might too. Hear hear! Food threads are really out of place in CS. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/42 "2010-03-19T07:09:15Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Hear hear! Food threads are really out of place in CS. Not so much out of place, but should have its own area. I think it would be great to go in and find recipes, places to go and eat in other cities and countries, good chain restaurants, etc. By putting this in one section, it would be easy to search, for instance, for a good chili recipe or what to do with 8 pounds of goat. Come on, everyone has some opinion on food, or restaurants, or has recipes to share. Sounds like a new section of the SDMB to me. Good idea? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/43 "2010-03-19T07:24:20Z")
All those ideas already fit under the umbrella of MPSIMS, at least as far as I can tell. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/44 "2010-03-19T07:31:16Z")
Crappy idea, the compartmentalization or quarantining of food threads is a dynamic that would wreck this board… might as well have a separate forum for music, a separate forum for books, and a separate forum for movies, as well. That’s the slippery slope. I think it would make for a superfluousness that would damage the flow and uniqueness of the board. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/45 "2010-03-19T07:39:53Z")
That’s the same faulty logic that delayed the introduction of The Game Room for years. I agree that there aren’t enough food threads to merit their own forum. But any doom and gloom reasoning beyond that is just plain silly. The Game Room didn’t create a slippery slope that’s doomed to destroy the board. On the contrary, the rousing success of The Game Room has demonstrated that adding a topical forum can improve the board. Again, there aren’t enough food threads to fill a forum on their own, but eating is so mundane as to be a no-brainer to belong in the MPSIMS forum. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/46 "2010-03-19T07:52:55Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > That’s the same faulty logic that delayed the introduction of The Game Room for years. > > I agree that there aren’t enough food threads to merit their own forum. But any doom and gloom reasoning beyond that is just plain silly. The Game Room didn’t create a slippery slope that’s doomed to destroy the board. On the contrary, the rousing success of The Game Room has demonstrated that adding a topical forum can improve the board. > > Again, there aren’t enough food threads to fill a forum on their own, but eating is so mundane as to be a no-brainer to belong in the MPSIMS forum. You see, the Game Room is an entirely different thing. It is an entirely different dynamic and might as well be called the “interactive” forum. See to me, this kind of culinary compartmentalization would just turn culinary threads into a common cookbook. The way this board is know, it is so much more. I think the spark of interplay and cross pollination would die. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/47 "2010-03-19T09:38:27Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > The Game Room didn’t create a slippery slope that’s doomed to destroy the board. On the contrary, the rousing success of The Game Room has demonstrated that adding a topical forum can improve the board. I still feel the loss of quality in Cafe Society with the inception of The Game Room, as it drew away a great variety of posters that made for a more diverse and Greater Cafe Society. I never go there… I feel as cut off as a smoker in the rain outside of a perfectly dry pub. Speaking as a paying customer… ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/48 "2010-03-19T12:06:19Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > I still feel the loss of quality in Cafe Society with the inception of The Game Room, as it drew away a great variety of posters that made for a more diverse and Greater Cafe Society. I never go there… I feel as cut off as a smoker in the rain outside of a perfectly dry pub. Speaking as a paying customer… Wow, I didn’t even notice. I just visit both boards. I actually like the division. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/49 "2010-03-19T12:45:18Z")
This happens in other threads, but here mostly… Posters claiming their awesome lyric or movie quote or whatever “wins the the thread.” ---
**Author:** ![Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harvey_The_Heavy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/50 "2010-03-19T13:22:01Z")
Another one here who thinks food should get its own forum. I just don’t see what food has to do with entertainment, and the threads just seem out of place here. And there might possibly be posters that never come to CS who aren’t even aware that food is covered here. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/51 "2010-03-19T13:30:34Z")
Mini peeve, but many of us read this forum from work. Many work places block sites such as Youtube. So, when there is a thread about **What’s Your Favorite Disco Metal Song** or **Your Favorite TV Commercials** , it’s annoying when the whole thread is just [Youtube Links](http://www.youtube.com) with no description\*. Actually, even when I have Youtube access, I appreciate even a mild description of what I’m clicking on, and not just [Enjoy](http://youtube.com). \*To be honest, I’m pretty sure I’ve been guilty of doing this. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/52 "2010-03-19T13:58:49Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Also, stop thread titles such as “Is there no \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ thread?” or “Why no \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ thread yet?” Just start the thread already. YES! Do we really want the main “The Show” thread to be titled “What, no The Show thread yet?”? If you don’t find one, JUST START ONE! You can tell us all about how your search went inside the thread, and we’ll all pat you on the back. (Or point out the obvious The Show thread that was started last week and could have easily been found if you weren’t a Google-hating moron…) ---
**Author:** ![Terraplane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Terraplane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terraplane)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/53 "2010-03-19T14:03:29Z")
I think the food threads fit well here. Food and cooking are as much a part of culture as music and literature. I know a thread like ‘does bacon go bad’ doesn’t fit that cultural aspect but there are threads that do. Besides, there are just 12 food threads out of the first 150 non-stickied threads right now, it’s not like they’re overwhelming the forum. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/54 "2010-03-19T14:05:24Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > “Who the hell is (fill in popular culture figure here)?” > > According to statistics I just made up, there is a 97% chance that you know damn well who that is, and you’re being purposefully obtuse so as to appear so much above the rest of us. There is a 3% chance you don’t know who it is, and could easily find out faster by googling it, therefore you are still being purposefully obtuse and trying to appear to be above the rest of us. > > That leaves a 0% chance that you are being genuine. Some of us really don’t know, and while google works well, when I have 22 other tabs and 8 applications open, I just want to ask and come back in 30 minutes for an answer. Personally, I often don’t know the name of an actor or actress, just a list of characters s/he has played. Case in point, the lead in _Human Target_ was also the lead in _Keen Eddie_ and had a role in the first season of _Fringe_, all shows I watch(ed) and enjoy. Have no idea what his name is, though. ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/55 "2010-03-19T14:07:36Z")
I get cheesed off when people get cheesed off at minor things they could avoid by CLICKING THE “BACK” BUTTON. There are a number of threads in CS that are worthless. Know what I do? Mouseover the header, and if I don’t like it, I move on. That way I can spend more of my precious time posting to forums that should be sent back to the Pit (IMLTHO). ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/56 "2010-03-19T14:25:41Z")
> [@kidneyfailure](#): > > I HATE it when someone comes in and says, “What’s the point of even talking about this? No one will ever agree on a certain answer, so what’s the point?” The most recent example was seen in that thread about musicians who are universally respected among their peers:… Yeah, I totally agree with this. This isn’t GQ. I’ve had a ton of conversations in my life that are basically like “Keith Moon.” “No, Neil Peart.” Lather rinse repeat. So what? It’s fun to talk about. And through conversations like that, both in real life and on the boards, I’ve gained an appreciation for other drummers who are also really awesome. And even if no one will ever be able to convince me that Neil is better than Keith, they’ve managed to convince me that Neil is pretty fucking fantastic too. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/57 "2010-03-19T15:27:05Z")
> [@descamisado](#): > > BTW: Michael, Randy, Duquan or Namond? Hey everybody, just so you know, he’s talking about “The Wire.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/58 "2010-03-19T15:50:29Z")
> [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](#): > > Another one here who thinks food should get its own forum.\*\* I just don’t see what food has to do with entertainment\*\*, and the threads just seem out of place here. And there might possibly be posters that never come to CS who aren’t even aware that food is covered here. :eek: It’s a Cafe. Food belongs. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/59 "2010-03-19T16:00:40Z")
People attacking a film over minor technical details. For instance, “That car wasn’t introduced until the year after the film was set, so the entire film sucks.” There seems to be a society-wide feeling that fiction has to be 100%, and that the slightest deviation from the viewer’s perceived reality means the movie or book sucks. The concept of “dramatic license” has been around for centuries, but too often there are entire threads based upon the idea that the slightest change in the “facts” for the sake of the story means the entire film sucks. This is nitpicking, not criticism. One can nitpick any film – I certainly have – but unless there is a blatant mistake that is important to the plot (e.g., Custer calling in for air support against Sitting Bull at Little Big Horn), it doesn’t ruin the movie. People who claim such things are pretty much just showing off how smart they are (“Oh, look, I spotted something.”). It’s even worse when the nitpicker doesn’t even get his facts right. I’ve seen many examples trashing a film because it was an accurate portrayal of its time, but where the poster didn’t know it was. Nitpicking is fun, but nits don’t ruin a movie. ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/60 "2010-03-19T16:16:57Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Say somebody starts a thread like “Which bands have a color in their name?” > > Then people post a bunch of responses: > “The White Stripes.” > “Black Sabbath.” > “Do the Moody Blues count?” > “I dunno, but Blue Oyster Cult definitely does.” > > And so on and so forth. > > And then some schmuck jumps in and posts a list of 6,000 bands with colors in their names that he obviously found on a google search or something. This immediately popped into my mind. I hate this with a passion fueled by the heat of 1,000 suns. In the same vein. I really don’t care if TVTropes already has a list of bands with colors in their name. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930.md?page=4)