# Cafe Society peeves

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 18, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930 "2010-03-18T20:13:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/81 "2010-03-19T23:19:44Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> It bothers me mainly because there’s rarely a way to legally obtain a lot of this music.
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> Oh, your favorite band broke up in 1992 and only put out 1 CD that only sold 16 copies? How do I listen to it today?

That’s part of it; another part is that it’s usually inappropriate, like for example the thread is on fun dance music, and someone just has to come in and post about their extremely obscure (non-dance, non-fun) band. Actually, it’s usually more than just one poster; it’s often a bunch of them, dragging the discussion down.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/82 "2010-03-19T23:25:04Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> I have the exact opposite opinion. I don’t like it when people start threads on topics that tvtropes has already covered (usually in great detail) and act like they’re breaking new ground.

I don’t mind when someone posts a helpful link to the TVTropes discussion on the topic, but I don’t think that the existence of a TVTropes page on something should automatically negate all discussion of it on the SDMB. OK, yes, TVTropes probably covers a lot of the potential examples that are going to be mentioned here, too, but it’s still interesting to read what people come up with, and any ensuing discussion.

On a sort-of-related note, I dislike the people in “example” threads who simply provide their example, with no commentary. Like, “Name a movie that really made you cry,” and someone comes and just says “Happy Gilmore” or whatever. Well, that’s less than illuminating. At least give a little bit of context, for cripes’ sake.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/83 "2010-03-19T23:25:20Z")

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> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> A pet peeve of mine is when someone nitpicks about a movie getting something wrong, when everything else in the work requires massive amounts of suspension of disbelief.
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> A recent example was a thread from last week where people complained about the way the high school power-play stuff was portrayed on Lost. You don’t have a problem w/ Frozen Donkey Wheels, Smoke Monsters, and Time Travel… but gripe on and on about how “That’s not how AP Tests work” or whatever. Give it up - it’s a TV show, not a documentary!

No, I \*completely \*disagree with this. If the story involves fantastical sci-fi elements in the real world, then the real world should be portrayed as _real_. Saying, “well it’s all fiction so who cares,” really misses the point of setting a story with some unbelievable elements in the real world.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/84 "2010-03-19T23:47:26Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> I’m annoyed by how much people exaggerate when describing food they don’t like. No, that pizza crust does not taste like cardboard. No food tastes like cardboard. Go ahead and chew on some actual cardboard if you don’t believe me.

Incidentally, it tastes almost exactly like paper (as expected).

> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> No, I \*completely \*disagree with this. If the story involves fantastical sci-fi elements in the real world, then the real world should be portrayed as _real_. Saying, “well it’s all fiction so who cares,” really misses the point of setting a story with some unbelievable elements in the real world.

You know, there [are](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LikeRealityUnlessNoted) [tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicAIsMagicA) about that.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/85 "2010-03-20T00:01:24Z")

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I know the “let’s list cliches and bitch about them” genre of thread is already represented… but what gets me is when people list things as cliches… and don’t back it up with listing where the cliches have been used. I swear half of them I would have trouble thinking of 2 cases of that particular event being used let alone enough to make it cliche.

“And of course the sister ends up being gold thief all along and escapes in the submarine… you know that old cliche!” I just read that and think “WHAT?”

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/86 "2010-03-20T00:04:49Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> No, I \*completely \*disagree with this. If the story involves fantastical sci-fi elements in the real world, then the real world should be portrayed as _real_. Saying, “well it’s all fiction so who cares,” really misses the point of setting a story with some unbelievable elements in the real world.

OK, the problem with that example is that none of the teachers could even explain why it was _ **so wrong** _. Sure, it may not be exactly how it works in the real world, but nothing felt unreal about it.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/87 "2010-03-20T00:05:36Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> I’m annoyed by how much people exaggerate when describing food they don’t like. No, that pizza crust does not taste like cardboard. **No food tastes like cardboard**.

[The Great Carnac]“Wrong again, Buffalo Breath!”[/TGC] 😛

If a beer oxidizes, it develops a taste that is just like cardboard. This is a common flaw in home-brew that is sloppily handled during racking and bottling.

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/88 "2010-03-20T00:16:18Z")

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Perhaps it is just a minor annoyance to most people, but I get very frustrated when someone asks for help in identifying a movie or a book that he/she remembers from when he/she was a kid and never tells us when that was. Some of us were kids in the 1990s; I was a kid in the 1940s.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/89 "2010-03-20T00:26:48Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> The Game Room drives me absolutely batty. It’s a completely inappropriate division - what on earth do board games and video games have to do with sports? It’s like the Sports Channel 23 hours of the day and there’s something interesting on between 3 and 4 AM or something. Video and board games belong in Cafe Society.

They’re all games. And there’s more than enough gaming threads to justify it. I could say the exact opposite from you, really: to me it’s the Video Games forum with the occasional annoying intrusion of sports threads. That’s because I don’t bother paying attention to the sports threads most of the time; they’re irrelevant to me.

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**Author:** ![Panthan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Panthan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panthan)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/90 "2010-03-20T00:43:06Z")

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In “favorite quotes from movies/tv shows/books/songs” threads, just:

“And then he smiled.”

Or whatever. No reference to the source (maybe I want to see/read/listen to it.) No context. No explanation why it left such an impression. But by itself, the quote is meaningless.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/91 "2010-03-20T01:06:23Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> They’re all games. And there’s more than enough gaming threads to justify it. I could say the exact opposite from you, really: to me it’s the Video Games forum with the occasional annoying intrusion of sports threads. That’s because I don’t bother paying attention to the sports threads most of the time; they’re irrelevant to me.

Yeah, and they’re 90% of the forum, forcing me to skim it in case there’s a good thread on, say, Mystery of the Abbey, and half the time bemusedly clicking on a thread called “Al’Huizer von Trippelhof crashes motorcycle - is this the end?” because, hell, maybe the rest of the world knows who the hell that is? I know that’s my fault - he’s a goddamned football player or something - but we could segregate that crap so I didn’t have to read it.

See also: politics forum.

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/92 "2010-03-20T01:12:02Z")

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Am I the only one who feels bothered by a monthly thread called “ **Whatcha’** reading?”. Especially for a thread about literature, wouldn’t the proper English be “ **What are you** reading?”

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/93 "2010-03-20T01:37:35Z")

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> [@fusoya](#):
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> Am I the only one who feels bothered by a monthly thread called “ **Whatcha’** reading?”. Especially for a thread about literature, wouldn’t the proper English be “ **What are you** reading?”

I am only slightly less bothered by that than I am by people who right “wanna” when they mean “want to”.

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**Author:** ![Rrose\_Selavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bcef8e/32.png) [@Rrose\_Selavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rrose_Selavy)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/94 "2010-03-20T02:31:33Z")

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> [@Ronald\_C.Semone](#):
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> I am only slightly less bothered by that than I am by people who right “wanna” when they mean “want to”.

or write “right” when they mean “write”…

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**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/95 "2010-03-20T03:18:43Z")

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> [@fusoya](#):
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> Am I the only one who feels bothered by a monthly thread called “ **Whatcha’** reading?”. Especially for a thread about literature, wouldn’t the proper English be “ **What are you** reading?”

This IS a joke, right? You can’t possibly 1) be asking what the proper English is because you _don’t know it_ and 2) not understand a little humor/slang in the term.

Another vote for wishing board games were back in Cafe. I go to the Game Room once in a very, very blue moon. But food being moved? That just doesn’t make sense. A lot of food questions are also time sensitive, and Cafe gets a lot more views than a new form would.

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**Author:** ![Spectralist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Spectralist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectralist)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/96 "2010-03-20T03:20:58Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> No food tastes like cardboard. Go ahead and chew on some actual cardboard if you don’t believe me.

Turkey tastes like cardboard. Not exactly like cardboard. But really _really_ similar. Maybe like cardboard boiled in incredibly weak chicken stock. At least to me it does.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/97 "2010-03-20T03:54:04Z")

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Dominos has the best cardboard!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/98 "2010-03-20T03:54:17Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> … And then some schmuck jumps in and posts a list of 6,000 bands with colors in their names that he obviously found on a google search or something.

That’s the thing that irritates me the most in threads… in a thread about “Movies that have XXX doing YYY”, I prefer to have some exposition behind the answers you give, like “In _Midnight Cowboy_ you have Dustin Hoffman playing…” and I can’t stand answers that are mere lists of films that fit the threads theme: “Lolita, Midnight Cowboy, 3 Men and a Baby, Herbie the Love Bug…”

And, since it has already been mentioned, if you don’t like a restaurant, don’t try to make some big statement about how you detest the way hundreds of millions of people have decided to manage their lives. All you have to do is merely say “I don’t like Applebee’s/Olive Garden/etc”. We get the point - you don’t like Applebee’s/Olive Garden/etc.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/99 "2010-03-20T04:08:08Z")

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Oooh, ooh, ooh, I thought of another one that drives me absolutely BATTY.

It’s when there’s a discussion of things that one might “get”, ie, jokes, hidden subtexts, secret meanings, etc. And someone says something like "oh, I was so surprised the first time I got the double meaning in ‘Mary Had a Little Lamb’ ". And then they DON’T EXPLAIN IT!!!

There was even one case where someone said such a thing, and then I asked for an explanation, and they responded with something like “oh, just think about it from this point of view”… a clue, without actually explaining it. GRRRRR!!!

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/100 "2010-03-20T05:03:28Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Those _bleedin’_ “Guys (or Ladies): This or that?” polls where the OP _never fucking explains who the guys / gals are_. And I’m not talking about an OP quizzing about cultural icons like “Guys: Ginger or Maryann?” or “Ladies: Kirk, Picard, or Sisko or Quantum?” No, it’s usually much more obscure stuff like “Ladies: Dan, David, Mark or Fred?”\* When I see one of these, I’m the tedious buzzkill who responds early on and says, “oh, and by the way, the OP is referring to characters from \_\_\_\_\_\_\_.” Very minor irritation but it bugs me every time.

Yeah, I hate this. Just put the title of the show in the thread title, for God’s sake. I might have an idea of what you’re on about, but I may not be as committed a viewer as you.

**aesiron’s** complaint about rap and hip-hop haters is spot on. Ditto for country. Nothing wrong with not liking it, but disparaging an entire genre seems awfully provincial to me.

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