# Cafe Society peeves **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930 "2010-03-18T20:13:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/101 "2010-03-20T05:19:47Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > Instead of making everyone to wait for the whole thing to load, just say “Scroll [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPCUDAF0bVY#t=05m16s)” I agree this method is best. But even without the #t= positioning, it’s not true that everyone has to wait for the whole thing to load. When you position the indicator to a new point, the video starts loading just from there without loading the intervening stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/102 "2010-03-20T07:03:41Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > Pretending that a work that you dislike that is part of a larger series that you do like does not exist is not funny or clever. Maybe the first time it was, but it has been done too many times and is now just irritating so stop it. Please. It comes off as very childish. > [@Equipoise](#): > > I would guess that Titanic is still loved, admired, and respected by the vast majority of people who saw it. To this day it’s still at [83% at Rotten Tomatoes](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/titanic/?name_order=asc) and a [7.3 at IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120338/ratings) and [74 at Metacritic](http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/titanic). It’s held up very well. I don’t think you can use the critical reaction as a evidence that it’s held up well. Most, if not all, of those reviews were written when it was released. I do agree that the backlash is somewhat over-the-top. Probably driven by the crazy amount of box office + the Oscars. There’s a lot to like about it. But there are some pretty serious flaws. It’s similar to Avatar in that way. > [@fusoya](#): > > Am I the only one who feels bothered by a monthly thread called “ **Whatcha’** reading?”. Especially for a thread about literature, wouldn’t the proper English be “ **What are you** reading?” Lots and lots of very well respected authors don’t use proper English. > [@Ronald\_C.Semone](#): > > I am only slightly less bothered by that than I am by people who right “wanna” when they mean “want to”. > [@Rrose\_Selavy](#): > > or write “right” when they mean “write”… The first two are colloquialisms (which I have no problem with), “right” vs. “write” is just bad spelling. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/103 "2010-03-20T07:51:19Z")
My pet peeves are when people forget that TV shows air in other countries besides the US and start casually posting spoilers for “involved” shows (like, say _Mad Men_) a fortnight after they first air. Basically means many of us outside the US can’t participate in discussions about current popular TV shows at all because of the likelihood of having plot elements spoiled months before the show even gets on the air here. I realise that’s the fault of the TV networks outside the US, but even so it’s a bit irritating all the same. ---
**Author:** ![Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Harvey\_The\_Heavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harvey_The_Heavy)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/104 "2010-03-20T09:18:21Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > People attacking a film over minor technical details. This kind of thing has pretty much ruined the “goofs” sections on imdb. I can understand a car buff spotting an anachronistic car in a movie set in the past, but **Continuity: The number of ice cubes in Sandra Bullock’s glass changes from shot to shot**? [shatner]Get a life![/shatner] ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/105 "2010-03-20T14:21:43Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > My pet peeves are when people forget that TV shows air in other countries besides the US and start casually posting spoilers for “involved” shows (like, say _Mad Men_) a fortnight after they first air. > > Basically means many of us outside the US can’t participate in discussions about current popular TV shows at all because of the likelihood of having plot elements spoiled months before the show even gets on the air here. I realise that’s the fault of the TV networks outside the US, but even so it’s a bit irritating all the same. Same thing happens in reverse for US viewers and new Doctor Who eps. I just avoid the threads til I’ve seen the ep, and maybe then search for the ep title if I want to read anything about it. ---
**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/106 "2010-03-20T15:11:27Z")
I kind of feel that, even if in a certain way a lot of people do like obscure things, they are mostly a certain category of accepted “cult” obscure things. I feel that tastes are not actually as broadminded as commonly assumed. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/107 "2010-03-20T15:19:00Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > Lots and lots of very well respected authors don’t use proper English. Yeah, that Mark Twain shore could use a good cussin’ on account of this. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/108 "2010-03-20T16:19:04Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > I don’t think you can use the critical reaction as a evidence that it’s held up well. Most, if not all, of those reviews were written when it was released. Find me a well-known and respected critic who loved it when it came out but has re-evaluated it and now thinks it’s absolute crap. > [@Yookeroo](#): > > I do agree that the backlash is somewhat over-the-top. Probably driven by the crazy amount of box office + the Oscars. There’s a lot to like about it. But there are some pretty serious flaws. It’s similar to Avatar in that way. I totally disagree that there are some “pretty serious flaws.” As I said earlier, I saw it in the theater again a few weeks ago and I thought it held up beautifully in every way. It was still as beautiful, exciting, tragic and glorious as it was the very first time I saw it. Only a couple of tiny special effects, like the bow cutting through the water, looked a bit off. Everything else was just breathtaking. The story held up. The script, which is a great script, held up. The acting held up. Most of the special effects held up. The details held up. Everything. I saw no flaws. It’s very nearly a perfect movie. In every way. Was then. Still is. And ok, whatever, not _every_ hater thinks all the things I said. Sorry for my bit of hyperbole. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/109 "2010-03-20T17:41:56Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > And then some schmuck jumps in and posts a list of 6,000 bands with colors in their names that he obviously found on a google search or something. Preach on, sistah. When someone starts a thread like “Song names with states in them?”, it’s pretty obviously a game for people to wrack their brains thinking of song names with states in them. If they actually wanted a definitive list, they would have gone to [wikipedia.org/wiki/Song\_Names\_With\_States\_In\_Them](http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_Names_With_States_In_Them) _before_ you smugly posted the link. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/110 "2010-03-20T19:19:17Z")
Two big pet peeves: 1. Douchebags who think that it’s funny to insert their political hobbyhorse in EVERY fucking thread. If the thread is “Who’s dumber: Gilligan or Gomer Pyle?”, it’s not appropriate or even remotely clever to pop in and say “Dick Cheney! (or Bill Clinton. Or Lyndon LaRouche) is dumber than either of them! Haw-haw!” 2. Idiots who are too dumb to understand the concept of “…within the rules of the fictional universe”. If someone asks “How does Superman fly?” it is always incorrect to answer “He flies because he’s a comic-book character. Duh. :rolleyes:” because any moron realizes that the question includes the unspoken “…within the rules of Superman’s fictional universe”. Frankly, I’d support an insta-ban for this particular flavor of threadshitting as it almost always grinds discussion to a halt. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/111 "2010-03-20T19:30:54Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > 1. Idiots who are too dumb to understand the concept of “…within the rules of the fictional universe”. If someone asks “How does Superman fly?” it is always incorrect to answer “He flies because he’s a comic-book character. Duh. :rolleyes:” because any moron realizes that the question includes the unspoken “…within the rules of Superman’s fictional universe”. Frankly, I’d support an insta-ban for this particular flavor of threadshitting as it almost always grinds discussion to a halt. Someone was just suspended for this behavior, so the mods definitely agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/112 "2010-03-21T01:43:07Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Same thing happens in reverse for US viewers and new Doctor Who eps. I just avoid the threads til I’ve seen the ep, and maybe then search for the ep title if I want to read anything about it. How long does it take for a Doctor Who episode to get from the UK to the US, though? It’s not a _huge_ peeve, but I often want to discuss TV shows with people here, but by the time the episode airs (weeks or months later) in Australia it’s “old news” to the CS crowd and so I don’t get to talk about it. It’s not like I’m crying myself to sleep over it or anything, but it is a peeve and this the thread for that, apparently. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/113 "2010-03-21T02:23:28Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > How long does it take for a Doctor Who episode to get from the UK to the US, though? Months ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/114 "2010-03-21T02:40:08Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > I don’t think you can use the critical reaction as a evidence that it’s held up well. Most, if not all, of those reviews were written when it was released. > [@Equipoise](#): > > Find me a well-known and respected critic who loved it when it came out but has re-evaluated it and now thinks it’s absolute crap. No. Why should I? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/115 "2010-03-21T02:52:59Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > No. Why should I? You shouldn’t, but you were the one who indicated we should disregard the reviews at the time they were written, when the movie came out, implying that some/many/most? don’t like it anymore. That’s how I read it anyway, sorry if I was reading it wrong. My belief is that if the critics though highly of it then, then the majority of them probably still think highly of it now. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/116 "2010-03-21T03:28:43Z")
Here are a few of mine: The OP says he likes, say, The Ramones, and he’d like some recommendations on some lesser-known bands with a similar sound. The thread moves along nicely, with most offering 1-3 well thought-out and articulated suggestions. Then some yahoo waltzes in with a list of names of 47 bands and no further explanation. Wow. We’re so freakin’ impressed! You are intimately familiar with the catalogs of 47 bands! Also, when someone intends to heap praise on a film, guitar solo, or brand of horseradish, and they do so in three one-word sentences: Best. Horseradish. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/117 "2010-03-21T04:13:15Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Months They’ve gotten much better recently. David Tennant’s last couple episodes were shown the same week in the US as in the UK, and when series 5 starts next month, the episodes will only be 2 weeks behind their UK airing. The first episode will be shown in the UK on April 3 and on BBC-America on April 17. Hopefully there’ll be no more of the ‘showing the Christmas special in June nonsense’ that happened in the past. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/118 "2010-03-21T04:33:57Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Mini peeve, but many of us read this forum from work. Many work places block sites such as Youtube. So, when there is a thread about **What’s Your Favorite Disco Metal Song** or **Your Favorite TV Commercials** , it’s annoying when the whole thread is just [Youtube Links](http://www.youtube.com) with no description\*. Actually, even when I have Youtube access, I appreciate even a mild description of what I’m clicking on, and not just [Enjoy](http://youtube.com). Just so you know, there is a [board rule](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697028&postcount=9) about this: > [@Rules FAQ #9](#): > > However, we have two policies (in all forums): > (1) Links should be described (in your text, outside the link itself), so that people know what they’re clicking on; and > (2) all direct links should be “workplace safe” (the “two click” rule) > > In more detail: > > (1) LINKS SHOULD BE DESCRIBED > When posting links, please be courteous to your fellow posters: describe what you are linking to. It does not have to be a lengthy description, but “See this political cartoon” is better than “This is funny!” > > If your link is primary to the topic when starting a thread, please explain not only what the link is, but why you are linking there. Don’t just post a link to a news story or video and expect people to start a conversation about it. > INCORRECT: “Ain’t this cool?” > CORRECT: “This looks like the coolest electronic cat-feeder ever!” And my biggest personal Cafe Society pet peeve: talking about music without giving enough details to find it. My musical tastes are rather eclectic, which means I enjoy some genres which are badly under-represented on the iTunes store, eMusic, etc. When you list a song with a one-word name, there could be dozens of different songs with that name. Give us the band name, too. Even the album if you know it. There was one particular case where I was asking about a particular genre of music and someone enthusiastically mentioned a particular band. I hunted down the band and listened to a few songs from a random album. Didn’t fit the genre at all, so I dismissed the suggestion. Later, I found that the band’s first few albums were completely different from their later albums and most of the band members had changed in between. It would have been a big help to point me to a specific song or album. Although my personal ethics require me to download the songs legally, I do like to give them a listen first and see if I like them. It’s really wonderful if, when you mention a song or a band, you can include a link to a website that has previews of a song or two, a YouTube video, or even just a mention of where you got it (e.g., “I found this on Napster”). ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/119 "2010-03-21T16:05:21Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > They’ve gotten much better recently. David Tennant’s last couple episodes were shown the same week in the US as in the UK, and when series 5 starts next month, the episodes will only be 2 weeks behind their UK airing. The first episode will be shown in the UK on April 3 and on BBC-America on April 17. Hopefully there’ll be no more of the ‘showing the Christmas special in June nonsense’ that happened in the past. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930/120 "2010-03-24T03:44:54Z")
> [@](#): > > …what’s with the food threads here? Well, it _is_ a Cafe… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cafe-society-peeves/532930.md?page=5)