# Cage as Ghost Rider **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 23, 2007, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036 "2007-01-23T02:32:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/41 "2007-01-25T06:08:59Z")
For everyone present, I started a new thread on casting and recasting comic book movies: > **[Casting and recasting comic book movies](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=405485)** > > I apologize in advance for the geekiness of this thread, but some people got into a good conversation in the Ghost Rider movie thread about the casting of certain actors in comic book movies, and I thought the discussion was worthy of its own thread,... ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/42 "2007-01-25T06:10:25Z")
[QUOTE=d11218w] To continue the hijack, I think [Damian Lewis](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507073/) would have been perfect as Matt Murdock. For those of you who have seen HBO’s Band of Brothers, he played Maj. Winters. [/QUOTE] Wasn’t even aware of the guy, but yeah! What a novel concept: casting a redhead for a redhead. _Paging Mr. Raimi…_ ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/43 "2007-01-25T06:19:02Z")
[QUOTE=Swallowed My Cellphone] At 45, Eric Stoltz is a touch old for the role. I’ve always though of Murdock as early- to mid-30s. [/QUOTE] I’m sure they coulda made him look a bit younger. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/44 "2007-01-25T10:40:30Z")
[QUOTE=wolf in second hand clothing] Oh Andre the Giant, where are you when we need you the most? [/QUOTE] Hopefully, [resting in peace](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000764/). ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/45 "2007-01-25T16:08:39Z")
[QUOTE=smiling bandit] And in any case, Halle Berry is hardly any more black than Ben Stiller [/QUOTE] Hmm? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/46 "2007-01-25T16:40:39Z")
> [@smiling bandit](#): > > He did have a sense of humor you don’t see in the Kingpin Thinking back on it, I actually kind of liked that. ‘I’m so powerful and badass that I can mock you as I plan to destroy you.’ It would have been nice if they had someone who looked fat, since that’s how he’s portrayed (looking fat, but not actually _being_ fat; as the Spiderman cartoon put it, “feel the crushing power of three hundred pounds..of **muscle** ” [not verbatim]), but I doubt there’s anyone alive who looks like the Kingpin that much, let alone someone like that who can act. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/47 "2007-01-25T16:58:59Z")
[QUOTE=cstamets] I always thought [King Kong Bundy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Kong_Bundy) would make a good Kingpin. [/QUOTE] Naaa, [Tor Johnson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_Johnson) , would be perfect! ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/48 "2007-01-25T17:08:24Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] Hmm? [/QUOTE] I’m Irish, mostly. And the rest is Czech and English. Halle Berry is almost as white as I am. Yes, people do have varying skin tones with ethnic groups, etc. But seriously, she doesn’t count as “black” in my book. She could almost be my cousin. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/49 "2007-01-25T17:15:24Z")
[QUOTE=BMalion] Naaa, [Tor Johnson](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_Johnson) , would be perfect! [/QUOTE] Except I keep telling you he is 103 years old, and he is dead. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/50 "2007-01-25T17:17:21Z")
[QUOTE=adam yax] … and he is dead. [/QUOTE] Then I suggest we use Plan 9. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036/51 "2007-01-25T17:51:02Z")
[QUOTE=smiling bandit] I’m Irish, mostly. And the rest is Czech and English. Halle Berry is almost as white as I am. Yes, people do have varying skin tones with ethnic groups, etc. But seriously, she doesn’t count as “black” in my book. She could almost be my cousin. [/QUOTE] Her mother is white, British. Her father is black American. I’m assuming by Irish, Czech and English, you mean non-black populations of such? Plus, how about how she self-identifies: [I was raised](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halle_Berry) by my white mother and every day of my life I have always been aware of the fact that I am bi-racial. However, growing up I was aware that even though my mother was white, I did not look or ‘feel’ very white myself…Many times my classmates did not believe me when I said my mother was white. I soon grew tired of trying to prove that I was half-black and half-white and learned not to concern myself with what others thought. I began to relate to the other ‘all black kids’ at my school more because quite simply…I looked more like them…After having many talks with my mother about the issue, she reinforced what she had always taught me. She said that even though you are half black and half white, you will be discriminated against in this country as a black person…" [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cage-as-ghost-rider/389036.md?page=2)