Actually, it does.
So assuming that they didn’t dawdle, the Cain and Abel thing happened when Adam was 125 - 130. We don’t know how old Adam was when they got kicked out, or how old he was when Abel was born, but the murder couldn’t have been centuries after creation.
Actually yes,
The Nephilim were not from Adam, and also existed after the flood.
Additionally Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
Well, that bottleneck ensures we all have Noah as an ancestor, but we don’t know the ancestry of Noah’s wife or the wives of his sons, any of whom could have a little nonAdamic in her.
I stand corrected. In any case, there’s more than enough wiggle room for Cain to wander the land of Nod for a while and hook up with Seth’s great-grandaughter.
For that matter, we also don’t know a complete genealogy for Noah himself. We know that there was one line from Adam and Eve to him, but what about his mother, or his other grandparents, or whatever? In any event, though, since Noah was descended from A&E, and we’re all descended from Noah, it follows that we’re all descended from A&E. And possibly also from other sources, but that doesn’t really matter.
Well there are two different stories of creation in Genesis. One simply says God created man, male and female he created them. And then another tells about Adam and Eve.
There are also two orders which animals are created.
So according to Genesis, yes Adam and Eve aren’t necessarily the ONLY people God created from scratch. But it doesn’t say he is either.
Just because something isn’t mentioned doesn’t mean it’s not important. We don’t know if Adam and Eve had more children. What seem to be implied is that after Abel is killed there are no more, male children born to Eve until Seth comes along. This is because Eve says God gave them Seth to replace Abel.
As for incest? Perhaps, but so what. The only thing incest does is produce a higher chance of genetic defects. That’s why the taboo, along with such things as emotional jealousy.
If we accept Adam and Eve were the first people their DNA wouldn’t have defects. And any they may have developed probably didn’t have time to change much or change to be serious. So their children mating wouldn’t produce any real increased risks of genetic disease
In decades of Sunday School in both conservative and liberal mainline churches, and even several years of college religion studies, I’ve never heard it suggested that God directly created anyone other than Adam and Eve. It seems that that would raise a whole host of theological problems, not the least of which being The Fall and Original Sin.
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My parents used to own a “scholarly” Bible whichmade that assertion in a footnote. I’ll see if I can find it; I seriously doubt my father has ever thrown away any copy of scripture he’s owned.
No doubt. Refer to the user name. (To state the obvious.) Heh.
One of my newer friends is a recovered fundie who has apparently done a lot of research lately in non-traditional motifs in the Bible.
The gist of his take on the Lot story is this:
Let’s assume that Abraham and Sara are correctly depicted as having the same father (though different mothers). This might later have become an embarrassment when even the marriage of non-intrauterine half-siblings became verboten. But if Lot’s descendants came from father-daughter unions, it becomes a small thing by comparison.
Take it for what it’s worth.
Wikipedia has a really interesting article about unnamed people from the Bible. In it:
“The book of Jubilees says that Awan was Adam and Eve’s first daughter. Their second daughter Azura married Seth.”
… and that Awan was Cain’s wife. Presumably Abel was killed before Azura was old enough to marry. The whole article is here.
As far as incest in the Bible goes, weren’t Abraham and Sarah siblings too, or at least half-siblings?
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Descended from Cain in a very loose way, since I assume there might have been some women descended from Cain in the mix. Patrilineal descent, no.
The existence of human-Nephilim crossbreeds was the biggest surprise when I actually read the Bible cover to cover. They never taught me about them in Hebrew school. One wonders how God lost control so thoroughly. Maybe he went away for the weekend or something, like how on Pete & Pete the Petes sold their house to Patty Hearst. There has to be a good comic in this story somewhere, how the only good crossbreed fights his evil brethren to protect the few good humans. The end could have him making a last stand while Noah sails away. Anyhow, it seems a dreadful waste of a good set of characters.
According to Jesus each of the fellow believers is either a brother, sister or mother, though not a biological family, it is a family of God that seems to allow and encourage incest.
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Yep. When I was a kid one of my mom’s best friends was a church elder, so I asked her the question in the OP when I was 14, but more specifically if the passage was evidence that Adam and Eve were the first created but not only. The answer? “Ummm…”
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Wow. That’s, like, witnessing in reverse.
The problem with that interpretation is that Lot is never criticized for what happens, and St. Peter, whom you think would know about these things, cites him as an extraordinarily holy man.
I was taught incest. While Cain and Abel were Adam’s firstborn sons, in between their birth and the stories about them, Adam and Eve had many more children. And they may have had daughters even before that.