# Cain has a Clarence Thomas problem

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 31, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387 "2011-10-31T15:27:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/161 "2011-11-09T19:06:00Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Actually, the statements from Cain’s people are non-denial denials (i.e. saying that the stories are “thinly sourced”, but not outright disputing the truth of them).

Now Herman Cain is [saying](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/us/politics/cain-to-respond-to-allegation-after-vowing-to-move-on.html?ref=todayspaper) “I don’t even know who this woman is.” :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/162 "2011-11-09T19:08:31Z")

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> [@Kozmik](#):
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> Now Herman Cain is [saying](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/us/politics/cain-to-respond-to-allegation-after-vowing-to-move-on.html?ref=todayspaper) “I don’t even know who this woman is.” :dubious:

Also from the Times story:

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> Ms. Kraushaar, [a co-worker] said, went on vacation but, in her words, “never came back.” The co-worker, speaking on condition of anonymity, said some staff members were told that Ms. Kraushaar had suffered an injury after falling off a mule but “the mule story didn’t ring true, since she’s an accomplished equestrian.”

I guess that worked about as well as any of Cain’s stories to this point.

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**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/163 "2011-11-09T19:32:54Z")

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Mr. Cain is starting a whisper campaign saying that she actually fell off of a donkey, in Tijuana…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/164 "2011-11-09T19:50:57Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> So are they lazy and desperate, or just malicious?

“Your Honor, my client never touched the automobile in question. And it was already damaged when he took possession of it. And it was in perfect condition when he returned it.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/165 "2011-11-10T19:08:43Z")

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Maybe there is something to this Mormonism thing after all. Herman Cain’s meltdown over the sex scandal seems to have been temporarily pushed off the front page… by ex-contender Rick Perry being unable to count to three during a debate. And they’re debating again Saturday.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/166 "2011-11-11T22:33:35Z")

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Cain has a Clarence Thomas problem.

[Funny you should mention him.](http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herman-cain-caught-camera-joking-anita-hill-165414641.html)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/167 "2011-11-11T23:01:42Z")

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From that link:

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> “You hear the latest news today? Anita Hill is going to come …” a man told Cain, the conclusion of his statement muffled by the crowd.
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> “Is she going to endorse me?” Cain joked, as he and the crowd laughed heartily.

Y’know, I have to give him credit, that’s about the best response he could have made to that. It would have been remarkably stupid for _him_ to bring up Hill, but given that a reporter brought it up, a light joke like that was pretty politically apt.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/168 "2011-11-11T23:17:18Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Y’know, I have to give him credit, that’s about the best response he could have made to that. It would have been remarkably stupid for _him_ to bring up Hill, but given that a reporter brought it up, a light joke like that was pretty politically apt.

You can’t tell for sure, but I don’t think that guy was a reporter. And yes, joking about Anita Hill is about what you would expect from a guy who was accused of sexual harrassing several women and still thought it would be a good idea to make a demeaning comment about Nancy Pelosi during a televised debate.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/169 "2011-11-11T23:35:45Z")

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You’re both assuming he recognized the name.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/170 "2011-11-11T23:38:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> You can’t tell for sure, but I don’t think that guy was a reporter.

Unless the questioner was a plant from the campaign, I still say that was the best response he had available. It was even a pretty smart response if he didn’t recognize the name, since it deflects away from his non-recognition, if that’s the case.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/171 "2011-11-12T02:01:19Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Maybe there is something to this Mormonism thing after all. Herman Cain’s meltdown over the sex scandal seems to have been temporarily pushed off the front page… by ex-contender Rick Perry being unable to count to three during a debate.

He should have said, “Hi, Opal!”

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/172 "2011-11-14T18:05:57Z")

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Will said this weekend ,that if there are 4, there are likely 24. How many bosses have had 4 actionable complaints by women workers.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/173 "2011-11-14T19:44:21Z")

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CNN just released the results of their [latest poll of the GOP candidates](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/14/cnn-poll-gingrich-soars-cain-drops/?hpt=hp_t1). Cain’s support has dropped from 25% in the October poll, to 14% in this poll. Comparing the October results to the November results:

Candidate / October / November  
Romney 26% / 24%  
Cain 25% / 14%  
Gingrich 8% / 22%  
Perry 14% / 13%  
Paul 9% / 8%  
Bachmann 6% / 6%  
Huntsman 1% / 3%  
Santorum 2% / 3%

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/174 "2011-11-14T22:46:47Z")

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Cain now has a Rick Perry problem.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/175 "2011-11-15T00:09:42Z")

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'Woot!

Gingrich is the new “Anyone But Romney” candidate again!

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/176 "2011-11-15T00:11:03Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> CNN just released the results of their [latest poll of the GOP candidates](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/14/cnn-poll-gingrich-soars-cain-drops/?hpt=hp_t1). Cain’s support has dropped from 25% in the October poll, to 14% in this poll. Comparing the October results to the November results:
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> Candidate / October / November  
> Romney 26% / 24%  
> Cain 25% / 14%  
> Gingrich 8% / 22%  
> Perry 14% / 13%  
> Paul 9% / 8%  
> Bachmann 6% / 6%  
> Huntsman 1% / 3%  
> Santorum 2% / 3%

Watch out for Huntsman. He made the best percentage improvement (66%) of all the candidates. 😛

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/177 "2011-11-15T00:16:03Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Cain now has a Rick Perry problem.

And it’s no wonder [with this performance](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57324556-503544/herman-cain-stumbles-badly-on-libya-question/).

> [@CBSNEWS.com](#):
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> **Herman Cain stumbles badly on Libya question**
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> Herman Cain struggled to explain his position on President Obama’s handling of Libya in an interview with the Journal Sentinel of Milwaukee released Monday, at one point asking if Mr. Obama supported the uprising and suggesting he was having a hard time articulating an answer because he has “all this stuff twirling around in my head.” [more]

The video is absolutely painful to watch.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/178 "2011-11-15T01:34:08Z")

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Anybody backing Cain would have to be delusional. Be has been a very poor candidate from the first day. He has stumbled in debates, has pushed a dumb 9-9-9 idea and has shown himself to be non presidential . His treatment of women just indicates what kind of person he is. He has been an embarrassment.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/179 "2011-11-15T02:26:58Z")

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Gingrich is next up in the parade of clowns, but seriously? He’s going to do exactly the same stuff as Cain, only not quite as hilariously, I think.

Unless Huntsman or Paul does something totally unexpected, I expect to see Gingrich crash-and-burn and Romney to shake both fists above his head, having successfully defeated all challengers.

And the only way I can imagine Hunstman or Paul making it is for them to radically change the voters in the Republican party, to find some way to convince a huge chunk of moderates to join the voting in this traditionally hyperpartisan contest.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cain-has-a-clarence-thomas-problem/601387/180 "2011-11-15T02:35:12Z")

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GOP Frontrunner–Now with New Improved Gingrich!! 75% more Pomposity than with Cain or Perry! Still Non-Romney!!

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