# California 2012 Ballot Propositions

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 4, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227 "2012-07-04T17:49:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227/81 "2012-11-06T21:10:50Z")

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Yes on 30, 34, 35, 36 and 40. No on the rest.

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**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227/82 "2012-11-06T21:20:21Z")

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We need to increase our taxes! Prop 13 continues fucking us in the ass each and every day. California may have high income taxes, but that’s because the property taxes are completely screwed up.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227/83 "2012-11-06T21:28:11Z")

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Does anyone know how the death penalty one was polling recently? I’ve seen very little reporting on that.

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**Author:** ![conway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@conway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conway)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227/84 "2012-11-06T22:30:24Z")

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The latest I’ve seen was an LA Times poll from a few weeks ago, with support at 42%, against at 45%, and undecided at 12%. But it was polling at 38/51/11 in September.

[Here it is](http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-poll-death-penalty-20121026,0,7370020.story)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227/85 "2012-11-06T22:55:13Z")

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If it’s any help, the state-wide high school poll conducted last week had the death penalty prop failing by less than 1/2of a percentage point. Who knows what that would mean to adults voting.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227/86 "2012-11-06T23:01:26Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Does anyone know how the death penalty one was polling recently? I’ve seen very little reporting on that.

[Prop 34 leads on Yes votes by 7 points](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-woodford/prop-34-death-penalty_b_2067617.html). I think the reason you don’t see much polling done on that one is that Prop 30 and 32 are the big issues and almost all attention I’ve seen is focused on these 2 props. There has been an insane amount of money spent on these 2 props.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227/87 "2012-11-06T23:18:25Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> [Prop 34 leads on Yes votes by 7 points](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeanne-woodford/prop-34-death-penalty_b_2067617.html). I think the reason you don’t see much polling done on that one is that Prop 30 and 32 are the big issues and almost all attention I’ve seen is focused on these 2 props. There has been an insane amount of money spent on these 2 props.

Yeah, I’ve seen about a gazillion commercials on those two.

Conventional wisdom is that a proposition like the Death Penalty one needs a 5 pt margin to actually win. We’ll see. That’s the only one I really care about here.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227/88 "2012-11-07T01:01:49Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Which one means “Throw out the redistricting committees, and return the responsibility to the legislature, where it belongs”?

> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Voters of California voted to rid the legislature of that power and give it to independent committies.

Yeah, voters in California can be real dumbasses, sometimes (_c.f._ Prop. 13, 2008’s Prop 8, _Governor_ Arnold Schwarzenegger, EVs to Reagan and Nixon).

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-2012-ballot-propositions/627227/89 "2012-11-07T17:09:00Z")

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For the historical record, the statewide results were ([as reported by the LA Times](http://graphics.latimes.com/2012-election-results-california/)):

Prop. 30 (Temporary tax increases): 53.9% **YES** , 46.1% no.  
Prop. 31 (Budget and governance reform): 39.2% yes, 60.8% **NO**.  
Prop. 32 (Union and corporate political donations): 43.9% yes, 56.1% **NO**.  
Prop. 33 (Automobile insurance): 45.4% yes, 54.6% **NO**.  
Prop. 34 (Death penalty): 47.2% yes, 52.8% **NO**.  
Prop. 35 (Human trafficking): 81.1% **YES** , 18.9% no.  
Prop. 36 (Three strikes): 68.6% **YES** , 31.4% no.  
Prop. 37 (Genetically modified food labeling): 46.9% yes, 53.1% **NO**.  
Prop. 38 (Molly Munger’s tax increases): 27.7% yes, 72.3% **NO**.  
Prop. 39 (Elimination of multistate business tax break): 60.1% **YES** , 39.9% no.  
Prop. 40 (Senate redistricting referendum): 71.4% **YES** , 28.6% no.

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