# California Electoral Vote Split Proposal **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 10, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-electoral-vote-split-proposal/415101 "2007-08-10T03:07:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-electoral-vote-split-proposal/415101/61 "2007-08-21T01:26:35Z")
[QUOTE=Stratocaster] This is actually pretty amusing. You are clearly taking offence to something I posted and have a lot of emotion tied up in the issue. [/quote] It’s extremely hard to take offense at something that incomprehensible. > [@](#): > > Anyway, sorry I can’t play the part in this exchange that you’d prefer I did. Again, WTF?? > [@](#): > > Please explain how your comment doesn’t mean that the EC, operating exactly as designed, is either worthless or flawed. I said _that_ flat out. > [@](#): > > And if you’re going to tell me that your post didn’t imply that this is a widespread sentiment…well, I’ll just wait for the explanation. OK, once again, here’s what I said: > [@RTFirefly](#): > > Until the 2000 election politicized the question, I’d never heard anyone suggest that the possibility that the EC might elect a President who lost the popular vote was anything but a flaw. Now, what time period does that statement make a claim about? That’s right, _before_ the 2000 election. Now let’s see what you said I was saying: > [@Stratocaster](#): > > The point you made was that most people see the Electoral College as flawed when the popular vote winner loses, and 2000 was a real trigger for this sentiment. That refers to the period _after_ the 2000 election, doesn’t it? Have we settled that? > [@](#): > > And, seriously, calm down. There was no offence intended, and frankly, I don’t see how it could have been inferred. I specifically said, “BTW, I don’t think there is necessarily a right or wrong answer here. Whatever best serves your axioms, I suppose.” The only thing about you that aggravates me is the difficulty of communicating with you. And believe me, I’m more than ready to abandon that endeavor, given that it’s singularly unrewarding. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-electoral-vote-split-proposal/415101/62 "2007-08-21T01:28:00Z")
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] Can you really have so badly failed to make a defensible, or even coherent, one? [/QUOTE] If I may take the liberty of replying for him, the answer is Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-electoral-vote-split-proposal/415101/63 "2007-08-21T10:10:39Z")
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] Can you really have so badly failed to make a defensible, or even coherent, one? [/QUOTE] I’ll take that as a yes, then. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-electoral-vote-split-proposal/415101/64 "2007-08-21T10:21:35Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] The only thing about you that aggravates me is the difficulty of communicating with you. And believe me, I’m more than ready to abandon that endeavor, given that it’s singularly unrewarding. [/QUOTE] Yes, you probably should. It’s clearly taking a lot out of you. It’s funny, I remembered you as a better poster. In this thread at least, you seem to have entered the Elvis camp–e.g., someone who assumes partisan motives, takes offense at everything, hurls unwarranted insults, insultingly picks pointless nits (your comment about the 2000 election could _only_ be about the period before it and my comment could _only_ be about the period after–BTW, a critical, critical point in context :rolleyes:–right, sure, of course), and ignores specific points that are inconvenient. Anyway, again, I don’t seem to have the emotion invested in this that you do, so I can’t work up a similar outrage. Sorry. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-electoral-vote-split-proposal/415101.md?page=3)