# California Is Cold and Damp?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-cold-and-damp/708054>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 23, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-cold-and-damp/708054 "2014-12-23T20:12:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-cold-and-damp/708054/41 "2014-12-25T19:37:04Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> When I moved here I was told about the microclimates. On any given day the weather in San Francisco is going to be different from the weather in Pleasanton which is going to be different from the weather in San Jose.

Sorry to nit pick (emphasis added), but that’s more of a summer than winter phenomenon. In the winter, we have a lot more uniform temps around the bay area. Maybe a bit warmer in SF than in the SJ, but usually pretty close. In summer, there can easily be a 30 degree difference.

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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2014, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-cold-and-damp/708054/42 "2014-12-25T19:56:06Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> The low temperature forecast for New York City tomorrow (Dec 26) is 38 degrees F. The low temperature forecast for La Mesa, CA (the city next to San Diego) tomorrow is ALSO 38 degrees F.

Today, here in balmy San Diego, its going to be in the mid 60’s. Tomorrow morning it will drop into the mid 40’s. Yesterday and the day before it was in the mid 70’s. The weather in New York is nothing like the weather in San Diego. I don’t know where the 38 degree low temperature forecast could have come from.

> **[Google](https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=la+mesa+ca+weather+hourly)**
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> Happy Holidays! #GoogleDoodle

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-cold-and-damp/708054/43 "2014-12-26T00:55:57Z")

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> [@Mangosteen](#):
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> Today, here in balmy San Diego, its going to be in the mid 60’s. Tomorrow morning it will drop into the mid 40’s. Yesterday and the day before it was in the mid 70’s. The weather in New York is nothing like the weather in San Diego. I don’t know where the 38 degree low temperature forecast could have come from.  
> [Google](https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=la+mesa+ca+weather+hourly)

The _low_ temperature at night. On Friday. According to your link, NY City will be three degrees warmer than La Mesa at that time.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-cold-and-damp/708054/44 "2014-12-26T14:09:24Z")

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> [@guizot](#):
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> The _low_ temperature at night. On Friday. According to your link, NY City will be three degrees warmer than La Mesa at that time.

In fact, at this moment I’m about to head back to L.A., at a Starbucks in [Lemon Grove , CA, (next to San Diego), where it’s 36 degrees](http://s2.postimg.org/9tosfele1/Lemon_Grove.png), and I just checked on [New York City: where it’s 40 degrees](http://s24.postimg.org/3k4g8a3bp/New_York.png). (Of course, it’s three hours later there, but according to Accuweather, last night it didn’t go below 36 in NYC.)

But it it isn’t _damp_, when it gets like this. When the rain comes around here, the temperature usually goes up somewhat.

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-cold-and-damp/708054/45 "2014-12-28T05:54:27Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> The entire song is about irony. That’s why she’s so contrarian. She’s doing sensible things, contrary to the behavior of the “in” crowd. Sort of like “If these things make me a tramp in your eyes, then so be it, I’m a tramp.”

Right, she is sensible, but that doesn’t make California cold or damp. Of course, parts of it are, but it isn’t much of a symbol for coldness or dampness.

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