# California is just too happy this weekend (because Prop 8 is Dead Dead Dead)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 30, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243 "2013-06-30T03:53:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/1 "2013-06-30T03:53:56Z")

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Or at least, so think the nice people at the [Alliance Defending Freedom](http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Gay-marriage-opponents-ask-court-to-intervene-4638052.php) (sic).

I mean look at the pictures at the top of that page. Those people are just too happy. We have to stop that, now!

Those meanies on the 9th Circuit voided their stay on their earlier judgment, based on the Supreme Court ruling about Prop 8. But they didn’t wait 25 days to do it! We would have appealed the Supreme Court decision! And even though appeals like that have a snowflakes chance in Hell (which is where all these happy people are surely going!) the Circuit Court should have waited like they said they would.

Waaaah, I can’t stand to see all this happiness in a state I don’t even live in!

NB: The Alliance Defending Freedom (sic) is based in Arizona. They are among the ones that were told they have no standing in this case.

NB2: The 9th Circuit did say they would wait for the “final decision” which would come after 25 days, but they have every legal right to change their mind.

NB3: I do live in California, but I was speaking as if I were a member of this misleadingly-named alliance.

NB4: I used (sic) after the name of this alliance because whatever they might be defending, it ain’t freedom. So they can go suck it (which is probably what they fantasize about anyway).  
Roddy

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/2 "2013-06-30T04:15:11Z")

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All I can bring to this is to yell FUCK THOSE ASSHOLES!!!

The world needs more joy and happiness. Stop with the ignorance and hatred, people. What other consenting adults do in their bedroom makes NO difference to my upcoming wedding and marriage.

Who cares, and why should they? I’ll look at the pics and maybe snert over the outfits, but really? I mean _really_? Sometimes my Beloved Buitthead will pull me on his lap and spank me. Why should that be anyone else’s business?

Why should we care who is doing what in their bedroom as long as they both enjoy it?

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**Author:** ![Samantha\_Leigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Samantha\_Leigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Samantha_Leigh)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/3 "2013-06-30T04:25:57Z")

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The dog in the pic doesn’t look too happy. But I am! Woot!!

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**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/4 "2013-06-30T04:36:22Z")

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WTF, those lesbians married a jack russel terrier?!!? Slippery slope indeed.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/5 "2013-06-30T04:59:53Z")

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Jacqueline. They have standards.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/6 "2013-06-30T13:14:36Z")

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Wow, those guys really need to figure out a different name for themselves. They seem to think “Freedom” and bigotry are the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/7 "2013-06-30T13:32:40Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Wow, those guys really need to figure out a different name for themselves. They seem to think “Freedom” and bigotry are the same thing.

All those gays walking around with freedom of marriage! If that ain’t oppression, I don’t know what is!

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/8 "2013-06-30T13:39:31Z")

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Maybe\* this indicates a serious malfunction in my thought processes, but here’s the string of ideas that just ran through my head:[ul]  
[li]The initials of Alliance Defending Freedom are ADF.[/li][li]ADF sounds a lot like KDF.[/li][li]You know who had a [KdF](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_durch_Freude)?[/li][/ul]I have a feeling it’s long past time I had my flux capacitors recalibrated.

\*Okay, strike the “maybe”.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/9 "2013-06-30T13:45:18Z")

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Did anyone else get a little choked up at the joyous, loving looks on those people’s faces?  
As to those who would try to block these marriages, I say that anyone who opposes love lives in fear.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/10 "2013-06-30T14:00:21Z")

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I’m mildly amused that every picture containing “Army Capt. Michael Potoczniak” identifies where he is in the photo, as if being the only guy in an army uniform was insufficient.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/11 "2013-06-30T14:02:36Z")

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Get this: The military is now attending Gay Pride events in SF (and, I assume, other cities) in order to recruit. I guess that’s a good thing. I wouldn’t join, but at least they are now free to do so openly if they so choose.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/12 "2013-06-30T14:06:32Z")

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Yes, for years, the military _wanted_ to recruit in SF, but now they can do so openly.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/13 "2013-06-30T14:13:25Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Get this: The military is now attending Gay Pride events in SF (and, I assume, other cities) in order to recruit. I guess that’s a good thing. I wouldn’t join, but at least they are now free to do so openly if they so choose.

Enlistment bonus for recruitment: a toaster.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/14 "2013-06-30T14:38:09Z")

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I am all for same sex marriage not just because I want gays to have long, happy, exemplary marriages. I want same sex marriage because I want gays to wake up in Vegas (or similar) after a weekend of party, drugs and alcohol and wake up married to some floozy (or moozy) and wonder what the fuck happened, then divorce after 24 hours of wedded, drug-induced bliss. Also, too.

So stuff the ADF and similar organizations.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/15 "2013-06-30T14:56:17Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Yes, for years, the military _wanted_ to recruit in SF, but now they can do so openly.

And then a historical bit that just hit me regarding the Village People and their hit “In the NAVY” in 1979:

> **[In the Navy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Navy)**
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> "In the Navy" is a song by American disco group Village People. It was released as the first single from their fourth studio album, Go West (1979). It was a number one hit in Canada, Flanders, Japan and the Netherlands, while reaching number two in Ireland, Norway and the UK. In 1994, a remix charted at number 36 in the UK. "In the Navy" was the last top 10 hit for the group in the United States, peaking at number three.
> After the enormous commercial success of their 1978 hit "Y.M.C.A.", which u...

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> After the enormous commercial success of their 1978 hit “Y.M.C.A.” which unexpectedly became the unofficial hymn and powerful advertising tool for the YMCA, the group took on another national institution, the United States Navy. The Navy contacted group manager Henri Belolo to use the song in a recruiting advertising campaign for television and radio. Belolo gave the rights for free on the condition that the Navy help them shoot the music video. Less than a month later, Village People arrived at the San Diego Naval base where the Navy provided them with the USS Reasoner (FF-1063) warship, several aircraft, and the crew of the ship (with the stipulation that they couldn’t dance). The Navy later canceled the campaign after protests erupted over using taxpayer money for a music video of a controversial group.[1]

For anyone that was not aware, it was canceled for because the band was, as described by The Guardian newspaper, “the most iconic gay band ever”

And then it hit me, what a difference a generation can make, that song can be used by the NAVY now, at least in several states.  
They want you!

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/InBXu-iY7cw/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHWBIAC4AOKAgwIABABGEMgXChlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLAg9r34MvqBrXQpQOaG8HydEaUcsw "Village People - "In the Navy" (official music video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw)

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**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/16 "2013-06-30T17:22:09Z")

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Justice Kennedy has [rejected](http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/06/new-marriage-challenge-fails/) the ADF application for the stay to be reinstated.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/17 "2013-06-30T19:03:37Z")

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Did he throw in a “fuck off”, 'cause that would be cool.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/18 "2013-06-30T19:17:21Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Did he throw in a “fuck off”, 'cause that would be cool.

Rejected without comment which is even cooler.

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/19 "2013-07-01T05:02:20Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> They want you!
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw)

Don’t forget the Royal Navy!

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtbKSXoueks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtbKSXoueks)

The California Air National Guard had a booth at the San Francisco Pride Parade. Don’t recall seeing any other branches there, but we’ll see who shows up next year.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/20 "2013-07-01T06:48:51Z")

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Why is this in The Pit?

I get that you don’t like these ADF people, but they are actually sort of irrelevant and insignificant, and they failed anyway.

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