# California is just too happy this weekend (because Prop 8 is Dead Dead Dead)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 30, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243 "2013-06-30T03:53:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/21 "2013-07-01T15:33:38Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Wow, those guys really need to figure out a different name for themselves. They seem to think “Freedom” and bigotry are the same thing.

I don’t know, one could look at anti-marriage as pro-freedom. Maybe they just don’t like the idea of gays being tied down to just one man.😃

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/22 "2013-07-01T16:23:15Z")

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The haters just need some [Xanax](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQugfxpRD-c).

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/23 "2013-07-01T17:08:58Z")

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> [@njtt](#):
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> I get that you don’t like these ADF people, but they are actually sort of irrelevant and insignificant, and they failed anyway.

Tell that to [James Dale](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America_v._Dale), or any of the people who live in states which passed gay-marriage bans the ADF has helped hold up in court.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/24 "2013-07-01T18:38:56Z")

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“California is just too happy this weekend.”

Yes, too happy. You might even say that they’re _gay._

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**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/25 "2013-07-01T22:58:22Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Did he throw in a “fuck off”, 'cause that would be cool.

I like to imagine Kennedy sitting on a beach somewhere with a cocktail, just getting ready to enjoy his holiday, when his cellphone rings with a call from a clerk telling him about this new motion. He sighs, puts down the drink, thinks for a moment, and then says to his clerk, “Tell them to fuck off, but put it in nice words. It is so ordered.” 😛

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/26 "2013-07-02T00:08:17Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Did he throw in a “fuck off”, 'cause that would be cool.

> [@hajario](#):
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> Rejected without comment which is even cooler.

i.e. “You got nothing; go away and quit bothering me.”

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**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/27 "2013-07-02T02:51:43Z")

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From Cracked: [A 30-Second Guide to How the Gay Marriage Ruling Affects You](http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/a-30-second-guide-to-how-gay-marriage-ruling-affects-you/).

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/28 "2013-07-02T03:44:20Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> And then a historical bit that just hit me regarding the Village People and their hit “In the NAVY” in 1979:
> 
> [In the Navy - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Navy)  
> For anyone that was not aware, it was canceled for because the band was, as described by The Guardian newspaper, “the most iconic gay band ever”
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> And then it hit me, what a difference a generation can make, that song can be used by the NAVY now, at least in several states.  
> They want you!
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw)

I prefer the Muppet version:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MTwq1_9VH68/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AG-AoAC8AGKAgwIABABGE8gWihlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLD-yiOG3Anhiu2xzIDUMAHf3BnHvQ "The Muppet Show - In the Navy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTwq1_9VH68)

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/29 "2013-07-03T00:33:44Z")

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> [@a35362](#):
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> From Cracked: [A 30-Second Guide to How the Gay Marriage Ruling Affects You](http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/a-30-second-guide-to-how-gay-marriage-ruling-affects-you/).

That article is wrong on at least one point:

> [@](#):
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> If You Are a Heterosexual Who Hopes to Eventually Marry:
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> This decision does not affect you in any way.

Sure it does. It now means there are more people than ever who _could_ marry me, but _won’t_. ☹

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/30 "2013-07-03T01:55:17Z")

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> [@Patch](#):
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> Don’t forget the Royal Navy!
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtbKSXoueks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtbKSXoueks)

And, may I take this opportunity of emphasizing, that there is no cannibalism, necrophilia, or homosexuality in the British Navy. Absolutely none. And when I say “none,” I mean that there is a certain amount, more than I am prepared to admit. Of each. In every conceivable combination.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/31 "2013-07-12T21:25:09Z")

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Well, [here we are again](http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Prop-8-backers-ask-court-to-stop-weddings-4662269.php). The soul-less brain-dead defenders of “traditional” marriage (not a divorce in a carload) are trying to get the California Supreme Court to tell the California county clerks that a) the federal district court decision that overturned Prop 8 only applied to the two couples who brought the suit(:smack:) and b) that state officials don’t have the authority to tell the county clerks what to do, i.e. to allow same-sex marriages.

The delicious irony of the second point is this: in 2004, in order to stop gay weddings in San Francisco, these same cretins successfully sued at the state level, which led to the state Supreme Court ruling that marriage is in fact subject to state regulation.

If their moronic case had ever had any merit, which I doubt, it is just lovely to contemplate when they realize that 9 years ago they cut the ground out from under their own feet.

Points and laughs, feels schadenfreude out the wazoo.  
Roddy

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/32 "2013-07-12T21:38:55Z")

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So we’ve had SSM reinstated here for a couple of weeks and so far I am happy to report that there have been no catastrophes of any kind. Life had gone on as normal.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/33 "2013-07-12T23:31:44Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Well, [here we are again](http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Prop-8-backers-ask-court-to-stop-weddings-4662269.php). The soul-less brain-dead defenders of “traditional” marriage (not a divorce in a carload) are trying to get the California Supreme Court to tell the California county clerks that a) the federal district court decision that overturned Prop 8 only applied to the two couples who brought the suit(:smack:) and b) that state officials don’t have the authority to tell the county clerks what to do, i.e. to allow same-sex marriages.

Using this “logic” (sorry, Father Lynam\*), the justices of the California Supreme Court, being government officials, don’t have the authority to tell county clerks squat.

> [@hajario](#):
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> So we’ve had SSM reinstated here for a couple of weeks and so far I am happy to report that there have been no catastrophes of any kind. Life had gone on as normal.

“They” are just trying to lull you into a false sense of complacency.

\*My college logic professor (who, as I mentioned in another post, must be approaching warp speed in his graves at the logical atrocities being perpetrated of late).

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/34 "2013-07-12T23:48:25Z")

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I hope the state supreme court blisters them so bad in their response to this idiotic nonsense that they (figuratively) can’t sit down for a week.

The culture wars, where one side dances around making faces at their opponents, and the other side is in favor of gay marriage.  
Roddy

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**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/35 "2013-07-13T02:16:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Brown’s statewide order was unauthorized, the pro-Prop. 8 lawyers said, because California law “has designated county clerks as the only government officials with authority to issue marriage licenses” and has not authorized state officials to oversee or control their actions.

Have the descended to outright lying now? The California Health & Safety Code [provides](http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=102001-103000&file=102275-102395):

> [@](#):
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> 1. The county recorder is the local registrar of marriages and shall perform all the duties of the local registrar of marriages.
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> 2. Each local registrar is hereby charged with the enforcement of this part in his or her registration district **under the supervision and direction of the State Registrar** and shall make an immediate report to the State Registrar of any violation of this law coming to his or her knowledge.

(my emphasis)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/36 "2013-07-13T08:25:31Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> \*My college logic professor (who, as I mentioned in another post, must be approaching warp speed in his graves at the logical atrocities being perpetrated of late).

“Graves?” How did he die? Quartering?

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/37 "2013-07-13T10:56:32Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> > [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> > \*My college logic professor (who, as I mentioned in another post, must be approaching warp speed in his graves at the logical atrocities being perpetrated of late).
> 
> “Graves?” How did he die? Quartering?

Soon as I noticed this — which, true to form, I did after the edit period had expired — I realized that someone would (nit)pick up on it.

Anyone who knew the man would confirm that he had sufficient physical and psychical (for want of a better word) presence to justify multiple burial sites. In sooth, however, it’s a case of the Fingers of Fat™ striking again.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-is-just-too-happy-this-weekend-because-prop-8-is-dead-dead-dead/662243/38 "2013-07-16T00:01:37Z")

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Happy to report that the state supreme court has declined to do what the Prop 8 supporters wanted them to (Stop the weddings! Stop them now! We can’t stand it!)

Story [here](http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Court-Same-sex-marriages-can-continue-4666818.php).  
Roddy

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