# California Propositions 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 9, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958 "2024-07-09T18:58:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/25 "2024-07-10T23:45:49Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I disagree- it is not slavery. _Dont do the crime if you cant do the crime._ And in CA, they arent forced to do hard labor. Eh, involuntary servitude is involuntary servitude - I’m with the ACLU on this one. I believe in coddling prisoners, Scandinavian-style, the poor little misguided lambs 😃. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/26 "2024-07-11T19:52:14Z")
The missing Prop. 1 and Props 7-31: are they because a proposition gets a unique number before it is qualified to be on the ballot (and these numbers didn’t make the cut)? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/27 "2024-07-11T19:54:20Z")
Not exactly. Ballot numbers are reused but sometimes famous ones get retired or held back for a while. Prop 13 being the best example ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/28 "2024-07-11T19:58:43Z")
Isn’t Prop 2 the the that’s cited on all the signs that say “This building contains chemicals that are known to the State of California to cause cancer”? I’d think that one would have been retired (or was that Prop. 26?). ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/29 "2024-07-11T20:00:14Z")
[Prop 65](https://oehha.ca.gov/proposition-65/about-proposition-65) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/30 "2024-07-11T20:02:06Z")
Ah. Thanks. #Tell\_us\_you’ve\_moved\_out\_of\_California\_without\_telling\_us\_you’ve\_moved\_out\_of\_California ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/31 "2024-07-11T20:14:35Z")
AIUI the proposition numbering gets reset every so many years. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/32 "2024-07-11T21:13:06Z")
California has had the system of ballot propositions since 1912. The number of propositions has actually gone down since the 1910s, though the number of propositions stemming from statewide initiatives (as opposed to those placed on the ballot by the state legislature) has gone way up. Here’s an interesting Ballotpedia page tracking the number of California propositions since 1912. [Number of ballot propositions per decade in California - Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/Number_of_ballot_propositions_per_decade_in_California) ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/33 "2024-08-22T18:27:31Z")
Bump: the first ads have appeared - they are for Yes on 33 and No on “the revenge initiative” 34. Apparently, the reason the AIDS Healthcare Foundation is being targeted by 34 is its support of 33. The ad’s selling point: “Look at who is opposing 33 - MAGA.” ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/34 "2024-09-16T13:58:49Z")
This election’s voter guide is out. > **[Propositions | Official Voter Information Guide | California Secretary of State](https://voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/index.htm)** > > Official Voter Information Guide, November 5, 2024, General Election. After a quick readthrough, here’s my gut choices. 2. Bonds for schools: YES. 3. Right to marry: YES. 4. Bonds for water and wildfires: NO. 5. Reduce local bond approval to 55%: YES. 6. Eliminate prison slavery: YES. 32. Set minimum wage increases: YES. 33. Allows rent control: NO. 34. Healthcare spending enforcement: NO. 35. Permanent Medi-Cal funding: YES. 36. Three-strikes drug sentences: NO. I’ll reevaluate before I vote. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/35 "2024-09-16T20:17:20Z")
1. Bonds for schools: no 2. Right to marry: YES. 3. Bonds for water and wildfires: maybe. 4. Reduce local bond approval to 55%: YES. 5. Eliminate prison slavery: no. 6. Set minimum wage increases: maybe 7. Allows rent control: maybe ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/36 "2024-09-20T03:19:35Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Nothing screams NO to me on first glance except possibly 36. All propositions scream NO by default. It is the rare one that ever screams YES. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/37 "2024-09-20T03:47:41Z")
Fair point. My default is always NO and they have to talk me into YES ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/38 "2024-09-20T13:38:48Z")
My gut feeling is “Yes” on everything except 34 and 36. I’ll re-evaluate when my ballot arrives. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/39 "2024-09-20T15:19:18Z")
Same here on both statements, though I’m not positive I understand 34. ---
**Author:** ![Carnacki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Carnacki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carnacki)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/40 "2024-09-20T17:00:06Z")
Re: The minimum wage increase. My work tangentially touches on the minimum wage (although not to the extent that I have any insider information, or understanding of why this change is being proposed). The current version of the law had it increasing over the past 7 years, and THEN once it reached $15, the minimum wage automatically adjusts (either stays the same, or increases - cannot decrease) based on changes to the US Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers. That process is how it was increased to $16/hour starting this year – and they’ve already announced the new amount – $16.50 – starting 1/1/25. ([California Announces New Minimum Wage Rates for 2025](https://www.govdocs.com/california-announces-new-minimum-wage-rates-for-2025/#:~:text=California%20Announces%20Minimum%20Wage%20Rate%20Increase%20for%202025&text=Based%20on%20the%20adjustments%20for,Effective%20Jan.)) So this one for me is a “no, unless I am convinced otherwise”. The current minimum wage law included the automatic increases to AVOID further legislation, and here we are changing it again before we’ve had a chance to see whether tying the increases to the US Consumer Price Index is better or worse for employees. (Note: I’m all for a higher minimum wage, so if the data suggests that the proposed law would actually be better for employees, I’m all for it – but, it caps at $18, so we’d need to amend it again after that, versus the current law which will just keep increasing it). Here’s a link to the current CA minimum wage law, in all of its glorious legalese. Section (c)(1-3) is the auto adjusting portion: [California Code, LAB 1182.12](https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=LAB§ionNum=1182.12). ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/41 "2024-09-20T17:47:54Z")
Here are the party endorsements. | Prop | CADEM | CAGOP | | --- | --- | --- | | 2 | YES | YES | | 3 | YES | | | 4 | YES | NO | | 5 | YES | NO | | 6 | YES | NO | | 32 | YES | NO | | 33 | YES | NO | | 34 | | YES | | 35 | YES | YES | | 36 | NO | YES | Cites: [CADEM 2024 General Election Endorsements (pdf)](https://cadem.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/2024-General-Elected-Endorsements-08.12.24-1.pdf) [CAGOP General Election Endorsements](https://cagop.org/votecagop/) ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/42 "2024-10-11T13:55:10Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > My gut feeling is “Yes” on everything except 34 and 36. > > I’ll re-evaluate when my ballot arrives. Got my ballot a couple days ago, did a fair amount of reading. I went with no on 34 (on the principle that I don’t want to vote for an initiative targeting a single person no matter what I think about the issue) and no on 36 (we’re not going to incarcerate our way out of the problem). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/43 "2024-10-11T20:34:24Z")
I vote NO on pretty much all bonds, except those to build real property. Yeah, i get 'this stuff is important!!!"- but if so, why not pay for it out of the budget? 5- NO, Not to tax increases. 1. No- in CA Prisoners get pretty decent meals and amenities in State facilities. (This bill does not cover Federal prisons of course). Why shouldnt they work for their meals? They even get paid. 36- pure MAGA scare tactics. Crime is down, especially violent crime, so people are making minor theft and shoplifting out to be a horrible thing, deserving of Life imprisonment. Inspector Javert would love this bill. Yes on 3, but it will pass by a landslide anyway. More or less I voted NO on most except 3 & 32. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958/44 "2024-10-21T14:39:57Z")
Here are the party endorsements, updated with the L.A. Times. | Prop | CADEM | CAGOP | LAT | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 2 | YES | YES | YES | | 3 | YES | | YES | | 4 | YES | NO | YES | | 5 | YES | NO | YES | | 6 | YES | NO | YES | | 32 | YES | NO | YES | | 33 | YES | NO | NO | | 34 | | YES | NO | | 35 | YES | YES | NO | | 36 | NO | YES | NO | Cites: [CADEM 2024 General Election Endorsements (pdf)](https://cadem.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/2024-General-Elected-Endorsements-08.12.24-1.pdf) [CAGOP General Election Endorsements](https://cagop.org/votecagop/) [L.A. Times electoral endorsements for 2024 November election](https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-09-10/los-angeles-times-elections-endorsements-2024-november) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-propositions-2024/1003958.md?page=3)