# California suing Activision Blizzard over sex discrimination **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 22, 2021, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037 "2021-07-22T08:12:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/21 "2021-07-29T16:10:25Z")
For what small part it’s worth, Blizzard was for a long time my favorite game company. They’ve fallen a bit in status over recent games, but I still was a pretty good bet to buy most of their games. But now, fuck that, until they clear their house and it goddamned _sparkles_. The decent human being game designers can go find a decent studio, and the bad ones can eat shit. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/22 "2021-07-29T16:13:11Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > the bad ones can eat shit. Do we know if there was any butt-munching in the Cosby Suite? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/23 "2021-07-31T13:04:59Z")
And another news article: > **[Report: Blizzard Once Slapped With 'Misogyny Tax'](https://kotaku.com/report-blizzard-once-slapped-with-misogyny-tax-1847397099/amp)** > > Activision Blizzard’s reputation has been tarnished behind the scenes for years Huh. Your people make misogynistic comments to a woman who happens to become COO of a company you want to do business with, and it has consequences. Who knew?!? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/24 "2021-07-31T18:07:16Z")
It just helps highlight how pervasive and unquestioned the “bro culture” is. They were at a fucking industry conference presumably trying to put their company’s best foot forward. And they probably _really did think_ that their behavior was reflective of Blizzard as a “chill” place to work. “She can’t take a joke? Shit, we don’t want anyone with a stick up her ass working here anyway.” The one thing that heartens me from the article is that the CEO of her new company and the conference organizers both behaved honorably. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/25 "2021-07-31T18:18:05Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Ugh. And this guy is in WoW: I’m trying to figure out if that image is supposed to contain something offensive. If it does, I’m missing it. Is it that his rank is field marshal, which brings up memories of the Nazis? His name sounds like it could be vaguely North African or Middle Eastern, but I don’t see what that would in and of itself. be offensive. He doesn’t look like a stereotype of any ethnic. or religious group. If anything, he vaguely reminds of Shredder from the TMNT cartoons in the 1980s. What am I missing? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/26 "2021-07-31T18:58:19Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > What am I missing? Um… > [@flurb](#): > > Alex Afrasiabi, the former Senior Creative Director of World of Warcraft at Blizzard Entertainment, was permitted to engage in blatant sexual harassment with little to no repercussions. During a company event (an annual convention called BlizzCon) Afrasiabi would hit on female employees, telling him he wanted to marry them, attempting to kiss them, and putting his arms around them. This was in plain view of other male employees, including supervisors, who had to intervene and pull. him off female employees. Afrasiabi was so known to engage in harassment of females that his suite was nicknamed the “Cosby Suite” after alleged rapist Bill Cosby. Look at the name of the NPC again. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/27 "2021-07-31T19:39:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Look at the name of the NPC again. And that’s just one of numerous references in game to Afrasiabi or the _Everquest_ character he played prior to joining Blizzard. [All have apparently been removed from the live game.](https://www.wowhead.com/news/references-to-alex-afrasiabi-removed-in-world-of-warcraft-323588) ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/28 "2021-07-31T19:41:05Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Look at the name of the NPC again. That’s on me. I should have looked at that more carefully 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/29 "2021-07-31T19:54:50Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > All have apparently been removed from the live game. Cool, I hadn’t seen that when I checked before. I guess they’re not _that_ clueless. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/30 "2021-08-03T14:16:49Z")
[Blizzard President J. Allen Brack is out as of this morning](https://kotaku.com/blizzard-president-j-allen-brack-is-stepping-down-1847412696), being replaced by a “leadership team” of Jen Oneal and Mike Ybarra. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/31 "2021-08-03T20:54:08Z")
Blizzard’s HR executive is apparently also no longer with the firm, according to Bloomberg. [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-03/blizzard-president-departs-as-game-maker-faces-labor-lawsuit](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-03/blizzard-president-departs-as-game-maker-faces-labor-lawsuit) > [@](#): > > A human-resources executive, Jesse Meschuk, also left the company this week, according to an Activision Blizzard spokesperson. Meschuk was the senior people officer at Blizzard and the unit’s top HR representative. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/32 "2021-08-25T00:09:26Z")
[The state of California amended its lawsuit today to include temporary workers in its investigation.](https://kotaku.com/california-accuses-activision-blizzard-of-shredding-abu-1847550659) The filings also allege that Activision Blizzard has been actively blocking the investigation, using nondisclosure agreements to keep employees from talking to investigators and (allegedly) shredding HR documents relevant to the investigation that they are required by law to keep. A couple of things that the article makes clear are: - This isn’t just a Blizzard problem. Although most of the allegations from the original filing involved Blizzard employees, everything involving the investigation now certainly rests with the C Suite at Activision. If they are stonewalling the investigation as alleged, that’s coming from the top. - They’ve finally got the pros in charge of their messaging. Their statement on the lawsuit expansion is a masterclass – doesn’t address the allegations at all, says that they are complying with every “proper” request, and then lists all the changes they’ve made to ensure a “welcoming and safe workplace.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/33 "2021-09-20T22:09:08Z")
Update: the Feds are now suing as well and the SEC has subpoenaed Bobby Kotick. > **[U.S. Government Now Investigating Activision Blizzard, Bobby Kotick Subpoenaed](https://kotaku.com/u-s-government-now-investigating-activision-blizzard-1847710889/amp?__twitter_impression=true)** > > The Securities and Exchange Commission has launched an investigation into the publisher’s handling of harassment and abuse allegations ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/34 "2021-09-21T14:19:27Z")
If the California lawsuit was a major concern for the company, an SEC investigation is a pants-shitting development for the C-suite. If it’s found that Activision Blizzard deliberately misled investors and failed to make required disclosures, executives could have personal legal culpability – including Kotick, whose signature is on each SEC filing. And apropos of nothing, [their Chief Legal Officer has resigned. . .](https://www.pcgamer.com/blizzard-entertainment-chief-legal-officer-resigns/) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/35 "2021-09-21T16:32:17Z")
I’m speaking here as a 25+ year Blizzard fanboy here, who’s played their games dating back to Diablo 1 and Warcraft 1: _ **Burn it down** _ ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/36 "2021-09-21T16:44:49Z")
I stopped playing WoW in January with the intention of just taking a break and getting back into it. Last time a few guildmates asked me when I was coming back I took a look at the situation at Activision-Blizzard and had to tell them I had no intention of coming back at this point. And over the last few years I’ve started to feel that way about the video game industry as a whole. I don’t like the way they treat their customers and the more I learn about how they treat their employees the less I’m inclined to purchase their games. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/37 "2021-09-21T18:10:22Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > And over the last few years I’ve started to feel that way about the video game industry as a whole. I don’t like the way they treat their customers and the more I learn about how they treat their employees the less I’m inclined to purchase their games. Selfishly, I don’t wanna quit computer games. I love them and they’re one of my major ways to de-stress (also: reading, cooking, drinking; it’s the third healthiest). So part of me hopes that they salt the freakin’ earth where Blizzard was, and that game designers hundreds of years from now still speak of Blizzard’s fate in hushed tones, and that everyone else learns their lesson and stops being assholes to employees, so that I don’t have to feel bad about continuing to buy games. (I don’t really care about how they treat customers; I can stop buying their luxury product if I don’t like them. That’s different from a person and their job). ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/38 "2021-09-21T20:24:13Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Selfishly, I don’t wanna quit computer games. I love them and they’re one of my major ways to de-stress (also: reading, cooking, drinking; it’s the third healthiest). So part of me hopes that they salt the freakin’ earth where Blizzard was, and that game designers hundreds of years from now still speak of Blizzard’s fate in hushed tones, and that everyone else learns their lesson and stops being assholes to employees, so that I don’t have to feel bad about continuing to buy games. It’s not like I’ve cut myself off entirely from computer games so I’m hardly in a position to judge. There are many things I purchase in my day-to-day life that I have no idea how the people making it are treated throughout the supply chain. And it could certainly be argued that it doesn’t exactly help workers if you stop buying the games. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > (I don’t really care about how they treat customers; I can stop buying their luxury product if I don’t like them. That’s different from a person and their job). I’m one of those customers which is why I care how we’re treated. And, honestly, I started cutting down on my computer game purchases mostly in response to how I felt I was being treated as a customer. Between micro-transactions, extremely buggy games, and requiring me to sign up for accounts just to play the game I just paid for I’ve just gotten sick of the industry. So it’s not like I’m all that noble over here. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/39 "2021-10-13T17:34:08Z")
The Activision Blizzard (AB) saga became even more of a clusterfuck this week. In short, the California Department for Employment and Housing (DFEH), which filed the initial lawsuit that kicked off the firestorm, objected to a settlement between AB and the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) on similar issues. The EEOC responded to _that_ by pointing out that the DFEH case had been led by two former EEOC lawyers who were deeply involved in their AB investigation, which is a conflict of interests and potential violation of the California Bar’s Rules of Professional Conduct. This could end up doing serious damage to DFEH’s case. I guess if there’s an entity capable of fucking up this situation as much as Activision, it’s the state of California. > **[The Activision Blizzard Lawsuits Have Hit a Major Snag - IGN](https://www.ign.com/articles/the-activision-blizzard-lawsuits-hit-major-snag)** > > New information linked to the $18 million settlement between Activision Blizzard and the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission \[EEOC\] has shown potential ethical violations that may have a wider effect on the wider lawsuit between the company... ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037/40 "2021-11-16T21:13:41Z")
[The Wall Street Journal has an article up today (paywall)](https://www.wsj.com/articles/activision-videogames-bobby-kotick-sexual-misconduct-allegations-11637075680) alleging that Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick knew about sexual misconduct cases across the company for years and didn’t inform his own board. The article also notes that Jen O’Neal, who was named a co-lead at Blizzard after J. Allen Brack was forced out this summer, has announced her departure after just three months after taking the job. She cited being paid less than her male co-lead, and having been, “tokenized, marginalized, and discriminated against.” So Activision appointed a man and a woman as co-leads of Blizzard in the wake of reports of rampant sexual discrimination, _and then paid the woman less than the man in the same position_. The stupid, it hurts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-suing-activision-blizzard-over-sex-discrimination/947037.md?page=3)