# CALIFORNIA the DUMBEST state in the Union **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239 "2003-10-08T06:09:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/21 "2003-10-08T07:10:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lezlers \* > \*\*Oh for gods sake. Now everyone who was against Arnie as Gov is a _bigot_? > > :rolleyes: \*\* Only in SPOOFE-land.šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/22 "2003-10-08T07:16:36Z")
I think itā€™s a form of penis envy between the states **sven** We (Texas) put forth our biggest prick Californiaā€™s just trying to outdo us. Okay, New York, Floridaā€¦anyone else want to try to beat our pricks? ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/23 "2003-10-08T07:25:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\*Because everyone knows that an actor could NEVER have any sort of intelligence or capability off-camera, ever. No, never. No actor, ever, in the history of the universe, has EVER shown an acumen for, oh, business, or economics - not even the actors that made millions through market savvy long before they made it big as a movie star! > > Christ, God forbid you bigots pull your narrow-minded heads out of your too-tight assholes and actually look beyond the British tabloid guffawsā€¦ \*\* Never ever considered him to be stupid as far as business is concerned. Heā€™s simply an asshole who should probably be in prison for sexual assault and quite possibly rape if the whole truth were to ever come out. Is he savvy? Hell yeahā€¦poor immigrant, American dream, thatā€™s fucking great. I used to think he was the MAN. Now I see heā€™s just another rich asshole that thinks he can get away with anything he wants, apparently heā€™s right. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/24 "2003-10-08T07:26:22Z")
Schwartzeneggar, he is in touch with the people. Well, the women at least. As they recoil in horror. ---
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/25 "2003-10-08T07:27:05Z")
In other Arnie news, I wasnā€™t aware he chose Twisted Sisterā€™s ā€œWeā€™re Not Gonna Take Itā€ as his political theme song. [ā€œ"It is a fabulous song, like a theme song for our campaign,ā€ said Schwarzenegger. ā€œPeople really connect to it.ā€](http://www.schwarzenegger.com/en/news/uptotheminute/news_upto_en_not_gonna.asp?sec=news&subsec=uptotheminute) Also, you can pre-order your copies of Pumping Iron: the 25th Anniversary on DVD right now! Itā€™ll be re-released November 11th, 2003! * * * On a personal note, I think Iā€™ve gotten to the point where Iā€™ve become so completely cynical about the world we live in, as surreal as it is now, I want it even MORE surreal. I donā€™t think Iā€™ll be happy till our every day world resembles a fucking Salvador Dali painting. Remember when George Carlin went from being omg-haha-truth-is-stranger-than-fiction-funny cynical to I-want-to-watch-the-entire-world-fucking-explode-while-I-roast-marshmallows-over-the-ashes cynical? I think thatā€™s where Iā€™m at right now. Iā€™ve honestly considered writing a thread Pitting the entire world. Havenā€™t yet, but who knowsā€¦I got two wine racks full in the kitchenā€¦so anythingā€™s possible. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/26 "2003-10-08T07:29:58Z")
Are you kidding? I havenā€™t been able to get that stupid fucking song out of my head for the past two weeksā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/27 "2003-10-08T07:31:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by friedo \* > \*\*Arnie is pretty liberal for a Republican; I would hardly call him a poster boy for Bush. \*\* Really? You donā€™t remember all the trips and press conferences and photo shoots w/ GHWB and Gov. Arnold the Presidents expert on physical fitnessā€¦ Arnold campaigning for Bush, his picture ACTUALLY on posters across the country telling us to vote for BUSH. Sounds like a poster boy to me. Hmmm how soon we forget. Or was just in Texas? I kinda doubt it. They say were like a different country, maybe itā€™s true. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/28 "2003-10-08T07:31:44Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by t-keela \* > **SHeeeit man, where the hell you been the past three years. Ainā€™t nobody gonna stop olā€™ Geedubyaā€¦heā€™s got Poppy pulling the strings. He got fu** _ng Florida didnā€™t he. \*\*AND believe me when I sayā€¦the good olā€™ boys around here **ARE** votin for Bubba next time too. Even if they have to walk from the damned poor house to do it. > > Arnold was Poppyā€™s boy or have you forgotten. Think he, Bush and his Kennedy connects donā€™t know how to win an election, come onā€¦wake up already. The man is a fucking pervert and a criminal. Why donā€™t you walk into a restaurant full of people and grab a waitressā€¦see if they elect you governor. > > or maybe go get a DWI and do a little cokeā€¦piss off a few million bucks maybe even go AWOL for a year and see how quick you get to be prez. > > Itā€™s who ya know buddyā€¦and how many $$$ ya got. šŸ˜‰ > > BTW Californiaā€™s got a few loose chads hanging around somewhere I bet, wait and see. \*\* Ya know, Iā€¦I didnā€™t understand any of thatā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Morrigoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Morrigoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morrigoon)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/29 "2003-10-08T07:33:17Z")
Jeebus ppl, First of all, Bush is unpopular even with the people who elected him (guilty), and is HIGHLY unlikely to win reelection. Second, Arnie is WAY more liberal than your typical Republican. Dude, his wife is a freaking KENNEDY, how conservative can he possibly be? Third, look at his team. Heā€™s basically the front man for a team of people with far more experience than he. Richard Riordan wouldnā€™t even RUN against Arnie, which IMHO is one of the biggest votes of confidence for me. Whatever you may think of Wilson, he RAN this state effectively, and nobody recalled him. Then thereā€™s Warren Buffett (sigh). Not sure whatā€™s happening there, or if heā€™s still part of the team. I have a lot of respect for the man, but he wanted to raise taxes, and honestly Californians are being taxed up the wazoo already. Hopefully heā€™ll stay on board and help Arnie find ways to attract businesses back to the state. Still, he is or at least was on Arnieā€™s team, another respectable vote of confidence from someone in a position to provide serious advice to Arnie. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/30 "2003-10-08T07:38:43Z")
Damn **spooje** get with the program. We got terrorists to kill. We ainā€™t got time for silly shit like the economyā€¦and beside thereā€™s a few more women Iā€™d like to shag while things are going my way. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/31 "2003-10-08T07:44:07Z")
**How conservative can he be?** Enough so that the only Kennedy that said they were voting **FOR** Arnold was his WIFE. Now Iā€™m not even sure about that. She looked pretty fucking pissed off the other night and she was looking at HIM. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/32 "2003-10-08T07:45:44Z")
Sheā€™s just mad because everyoneā€™s getting the Arnie action but her. Must be the pants. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![cbm77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@cbm77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbm77)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/33 "2003-10-08T07:52:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > \*\*Ya know, Iā€¦I didnā€™t understand any of thatā€¦ \*\* I didnā€™t eitherā€¦And am a little baffled by his next postā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/34 "2003-10-08T07:54:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by t-keela \* > \*\*Really? You donā€™t remember all the trips and press conferences and photo shoots w/ GHWB and Gov. Arnold the Presidents expert on physical fitnessā€¦ > > Arnold campaigning for Bush, his picture ACTUALLY on posters across the country telling us to vote for BUSH. Sounds like a poster boy to me.\*\* That was GHWB, not GWB, and GWB is a very different man from his father. Hell, I have a hard time imagining even GHWB agreeing to be a poster boy for GWB. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/35 "2003-10-08T07:55:16Z")
**HA** šŸ˜ƒ **lez** Ya reckon sheā€™s getting sick of the sex role playing games w/ Conan yet? I can think of a few that might be cool. In the cave with black and white camo stripeā€¦remember that scene? ---
**Author:** ![Morrigoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Morrigoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morrigoon)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/36 "2003-10-08T07:58:04Z")
[http://www.latimes.com/](http://www.latimes.com/) Yeah, she looks REALLY pissed off to me :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/37 "2003-10-08T08:01:21Z")
Ya just got to speak Texan, **spooje**. Allow me to translate: > [@](#): > > **SHeeeit man, where the hell you been the past three years. Ainā€™t nobody gonna stop olā€™ Geedubyaā€¦heā€™s got Poppy pulling the strings. He got fu** \*ng Florida didnā€™t he. AND believe me when I sayā€¦the good olā€™ boys around here \*\*ARE votin for Bubba next time too. Even if they have to walk from the damned poor house to do it. \*\*Jeepers, have you not been reading the papers? Bush is going to win in 2004 mainly because his father still has deep political connections, and his family connections are what allowed him to win the liberal leaning Florida.As for Texas, Bush can count on every rural voter to show up to the polls come November in 2004. That should win him the state. > [@](#): > > \*\* Arnold was Poppyā€™s boy or have you forgotten. Think he, Bush and his Kennedy connects donā€™t know how to win an election, come onā€¦wake up already. The man is a fucking pervert and a criminal. Why donā€™t you walk into a restaurant full of people and grab a waitressā€¦see if they elect you governor.\*\* Schwarzenegger was involved in Bush Srā€™s administration. Couple his Bush connections with the Kennedy connections he has from his wife, and Arnold has a powerful braintrust capable of overcoming scandals that would scuttle most other campaigns. > [@](#): > > \*\* or maybe go get a DWI and do a little cokeā€¦piss off a few million bucks maybe even go AWOL for a year and see how quick you get to be prez. > > Itā€™s who ya know buddyā€¦and how many $$$ ya got. \*\*This is the same type of braintrust that enabled Bush Jr to overcome his cocaine, financial, and military service scandals. Connections and money are the driving force behind political campaigns. > [@](#): > > \*\* BTW Californiaā€™s got a few loose chads hanging around somewhere I bet, wait and see. \*\*However, we should not get ahead of ourselves. It is my belief that we will see further Court action in Californiaā€™s gubernatorial election. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/38 "2003-10-08T08:01:58Z")
Itā€™s called a _joke_ **Morrigoon**. Sheesh. You conservatives have no sense of humor. You won! Now pull the stick outta yer ass. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/39 "2003-10-08T08:03:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Sublight \* > \*\*That was GHWB, not GWB, and GWB is a very different man from his father. Hell, I have a hard time imagining even GHWB agreeing to be a poster boy for GWB. \*\* Different? How so? Heā€™s got the same damned people advising him. Who do you think got shrub into office to begin with and Jeb. Iā€™ve been listening to the Bushit for many many years. Theyā€™re both full of it. and so is Conan. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/40 "2003-10-08T08:09:58Z")
**A Monkey With a Gun** šŸ˜ƒ Now how can I possibly improve on that? Tell the truth, your nickname is **Bubba** huh? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239.md?page=3)