# CALIFORNIA the DUMBEST state in the Union **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 8, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239 "2003-10-08T06:09:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/41 "2003-10-08T08:14:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Morrigoon \* > Whatever you may think of Wilson, he RAN this state effectively, and nobody recalled him. Please tell me you’re joking. Exactly how was energy deregulation effective? Unless by “effective”, you mean “biggest disaster in the history of California”. ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/42 "2003-10-08T08:21:19Z")
Damn **blowero** you sound like **spooje** now. You just ain’t gettin’ it are ya. You gotta believe what we say not what you see. That’s modern politics…_it’s an illusion_ ---
**Author:** ![t-keela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a3d4f5/32.png) [@t-keela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/t-keela)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/43 "2003-10-08T08:24:12Z")
it’s been fun y’all g~nite & good luck California ya have my sympathy… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/44 "2003-10-08T08:24:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Knorf \* > \*\*I’m just getting this rant of my chest. > > The capacity of California voters for stupidity is so exceptional, so singularly vast in scope, that it defies measure and description. > > California, you deserve what you get. \*\* Yes, because if they don’t vote for your candidate, they’re stupid. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/45 "2003-10-08T08:28:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \* > \*\*Yes, because if they don’t vote for your candidate, they’re stupid. Nice. \*\* Implying the people who voted for The Govinator are overwhelmingly intelligent, based on his serious political background, education, experience and know-how? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/46 "2003-10-08T08:29:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by even sven \* > \*\*But he is a walking cock. That is his appeal. He’s a cock and he said he’s gonna give California a good old fashioned fucking and that’ll fix everything. America is really in to the wang thing right now. we are electing penii left and right. George Bush is one of them. We don’t want a leader. We want a big fucking penis. \*\* :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/47 "2003-10-08T08:53:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cerri \* > \*\*Implying the people who voted for The Govinator are overwhelmingly intelligent, based on his serious political background, education, experience and know-how? \*\* Did I say that? Don’t put words in my mouth. I simply mean that calling someone stupid because they voted for him is, well, stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/48 "2003-10-08T09:15:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cerri \* > \*\*Implying the people who voted for The Govinator are overwhelmingly intelligent, based on his serious political background, education, experience and know-how? \*\* But we did have a guy with a serious political background, education and experience. His name was Gray Davis. (The man has been in politics his entire adult life) And he screwed the pooch, _big time_!. Yeah, I’m a democrat and voted for Arnold. Why? Because Davis did SUCH a bad job, and there needs to be consequences for it, and Bustamante is mental. And because Richard Riordan didn’t run. I hope the California Democratic Party heeds this as a wake up call… ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/49 "2003-10-08T09:17:06Z")
BTW, \*\* A Monkey With a Gun\*\*, thanks for the translation. I understand it now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/50 "2003-10-08T09:21:09Z")
I’m disappointed, but not surprised. I hoped that if people hadn’t noticed that Arnod never once specified _how_ he was going to fix California, or wondered exactly where someone so independent of special interests got all that campaign money they would at least be a little shocked that at least FIFTEEN women said he had groped them or otherwise harrassed them. Once again I overestimated the intelligence of the average Californian. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by SPOOFE_ **Christ, God forbid you bigots pull your narrow-minded heads out of your too-tight assholes and actually look beyond the British tabloid guffaws…** I thought you LIKED tight assholes. [Seinfeld]Not that there’s anything wrong with that.[/Seinfeld] 😃 The credulous Californians also bought C. Everett Coop’s lie that failure to collect information on racial and ethnic backgrounds would somehow cause more people to die of cancer and diabetes. How he made that connection I can’t imagine. Oh, wait, somebody PAID him to. This has been a disappointing day. ---
**Author:** ![Cerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3bc359/32.png) [@Cerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerri)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/51 "2003-10-08T09:41:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \* > \*\*Did I say that? Don’t put words in my mouth. I simply mean that calling someone stupid because they voted for him is, well, stupid. \*\* Sorry if I thought you were implying something you didn’t, it wasn’t my intention, it’s probably just my innate cynicism talking. I just thought the OP had at least a slight right to feel outraged that they elected a Governor with zero appreciable experience involving anything to do with politics to solve what is by far California’s worst fiscal crisis ever and it seemed like you were mocking that. If I misunderstood what you we’re saying, again, that wasn’t my intention. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/52 "2003-10-08T09:51:14Z")
Hey, no problem. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/53 "2003-10-08T10:53:14Z")
Ok…time to again give serious thought to splitting the state into NorCal and SoCal…I can hear the sobs of rural despair from my homeland, all the way here in Georgia. I’d much rather see NorCal’s legislative fate in the hands of the Bay Area, than see it so tainted by hordes of fruit loops at the bottom of the state…who have little to no clue regarding the vast majority of the lands (yet minority of the folks) that they hold sway over. Doom…DOOM!! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/54 "2003-10-08T11:06:02Z")
Uh, the state capital, and Arnolds new home, is in northern California. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/55 "2003-10-08T11:23:36Z")
> [@](#): > > Uh, the state capital, and Arnolds new home, is in northern California. You get a gold star for Califorinia Geography…but the current location of the Capital is moot in regards to my argument. The voting power lies in the lower regions of the state, disproportionately. Northern California is simply a different beast than Southern California, on many different levels, yet the voters in Southern California can (and do) easily swing the vote their direction. Having two _seperate_ states (with their own individual Capitals) would better serve the needs of Northern California, imho. There would still be a an issue with the populated centers of the new Northern California state holding a disproportionate control of any vote, but your average Bay Area resident is more “in touch” with Northern California, in general, than your average resident of Los Angeles. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/56 "2003-10-08T11:23:57Z")
So when can we expect _Anschluss_ with Oregon? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/57 "2003-10-08T11:27:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Extraneous \* > \*\*At least Arnnie is better looking than Jesse Ventura > \*\* I loved Molly Ivins’s remark that Schwarzenegger (or “Actor,” as he is known to the headline writers at the San Francisco Chronicle) “looks like a condom stuffed with walnuts.” ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/58 "2003-10-08T11:36:41Z")
> [@](#): > > So when can we expect Anschluss with Oregon? I’ve always preferred Beavers to Trojans… 😃 Ok…that was a groaner…and we dykes do put our fair share of condoms to good use. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/59 "2003-10-08T11:41:06Z")
Those of you who voted for Arnold, why? Was it a least of two evils type of thing? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2003, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239/60 "2003-10-08T11:43:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*Those of you who voted for Arnold, why? > > Was it a least of two evils type of thing? \*\* More or less, yeah. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-the-dumbest-state-in-the-union/206239.md?page=4)