# Californians: Who'll Enter The Recall? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 21, 2003, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909 "2003-07-21T13:58:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/21 "2003-07-26T05:00:28Z")
> [@](#): > > could a bunch of Davis supporters force another recall immediately thereafter? Yes. But wait, it gets better: It was pointed out in the other thread that, since: a) off-year elections have traditionally have low turnout, and b) a recall only requires signatures from 12% of the voters in the previous election, - then the threshold for starting a recall of whoever is the next governor could be extremely low. This recall required ~900k signatures, the next could require many fewer. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/22 "2003-07-26T05:58:22Z")
I think that three people have officially announced. Peter Camejo (sp?) of the Green Party Darrell Issa for the Republicans Michael Huffington for the Republicans ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/23 "2003-07-26T05:59:47Z")
Audie Bock, formerly of the Greens, and now a Democrat (neither party cares for her much) has also announced. Kathleen Connell may get into the race for the Democrats according to the Sacramento Bee. ---
**Author:** ![Antonius\_Block](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Antonius\_Block](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antonius_Block)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/24 "2003-07-26T08:17:35Z")
Don’t forget [Georgina Russell](http://www.georgyforgov.com/index.htm)! With the bar set so low for potential candidates (in terms of money and signatures), she may well be on the ballot. Given that her nickname is **Georgy** , anyone wanna place bets on what her campaign song might be? [Now, where’s that _ **Monkey’s Paw** _ I threw in the corner after making two wishes that backfired?] ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/25 "2003-07-26T11:05:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BobT \* > I think it’s funny that only in California would somebody like Riordan, who served 8 years as mayor of the second largest city in the country, says he won’t run for governor unless Arnold Schwarzenegger does. > … > It would be like Rudy Giuliani not running for governor of New York because he is worried that Nathan Lane might enter the race. Exactly. I’m rootin’ for Riordan. He’s OK. But Schwarzenegger? Who the hell knows what kind of politician he’d be? I think he should start small–like be the mayor of Palm Springs or of Carmel or something first, and see how he likes it… ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/26 "2003-07-26T15:23:11Z")
It is now also rumored that Jerry Brown may get into the race. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/27 "2003-07-26T18:38:12Z")
[According to this story](http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/6390057.htm), there are already 10 candidates who have filed for the election, with seven more considering running. My guess is there will be 25 or 30 candidates on the ballot before we’re done. A real mosh pit. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/28 "2003-07-26T18:43:31Z")
The humor potential continues to rise… This will be a fine talk show season. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/29 "2003-07-26T19:09:01Z")
If anyone will spot me the cash, I’ll run for office. Is twenty too young to be governor? ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/30 "2003-07-26T19:12:25Z")
The only requirement to run for governor in California is to be a registered voter in the state. Hence, you can be 18 and be governor. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/31 "2003-07-26T19:17:26Z")
Neat! Dopers, can I borrow some cash? I wanna be financed by [sinister music] _“Evil out-of-state interests…”_ [sinister music] ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/32 "2003-07-26T20:18:09Z")
If the replacement does get about 30 or so candidates, with only a few being acceptable, then Davis should have an easier time. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/33 "2003-07-26T23:47:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BobT \* > \*\* > Michael Huffington for the Republicans \*\* As I recall, Mr. Huffington left the Republican Party around the same time that he came out of the closet, though I could be mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/34 "2003-07-27T00:11:25Z")
Well, the list of candidates and possible candidates on [www.politics1.com](http://www.politics1.com) is increasing: Announced Dems: Former Green Party Assemblywoman Audie Bock, a bunch of unknowns. Possible Dems: St. Sen. Dean Florez, ex-Rep. Gary Condit. Announced Reps: Rep. Darrell Issa, a bunch of unknowns. Possible Reps: Philathropist Bill Simon, Ex-Mayor of LA RIchard Riordan, St. Sen. Tom McClintock, actor Arnold Schwarzenegger. Announced Rep? or Independent?: Ex-Rep. Mike Huffington. Announed Green: Banker Peter Camejo. Announced (?) Peace and Freedom: PI Jan B Tucker. Announced AIP: Rancher Ron Gulke. Probable Independents: Columnist Arrianna Huffington, talk show host Michael Wiener (Savage). ---
**Author:** ![Alzarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@Alzarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alzarian)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/35 "2003-07-27T01:04:13Z")
I have a question about the way the election will work. If I were to vote to keep Davis, am I allowed to go to the second part and pick a candidate if Davis is not elected, or is the second part of the ballot only for those who vote against Davis. If all voters can vote on an alternative, then it would make sense for there to be one Democratic candidate who would no doubt win over the multitudes of Republican candidates. Thus, I’m guessing only those who vote NO to Davis can pick his successor, right? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/36 "2003-07-27T02:12:38Z")
According to [this](http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/recall/story/7104798p-8052446c.html), **55 people** have requested the paperwork for getting onto the ballot. So far, 10 have filed. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/37 "2003-07-27T02:48:05Z")
I’d vote for Schwarzenegger, I think, from what I’ve seen of the candidates and of Ahnuld, I think I’d be happiest with Ahnuld. He calls himself Republican, but many people who know him question why, since he’s more in line with Democratic thinking on many important issues. Plus, the guy has proved himself an extremely savvy, hardworking and highly successful businessman. He’s no dummy. And he married a Kennedy, so how much of a Pub could he be? If we could elect Reagan, we could elect Ahnuld. Oh, and Riordan said today that he’s backing Arnie and won’t consider running unless for some reason he doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/38 "2003-07-27T05:17:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Alzarian \* > \*\*I have a question about the way the election will work. > > If I were to vote to keep Davis, am I allowed to go to the second part and pick a candidate if Davis is not elected, or is the second part of the ballot only for those who vote against Davis. > > If all voters can vote on an alternative, then it would make sense for there to be one Democratic candidate who would no doubt win over the multitudes of Republican candidates. > > Thus, I’m guessing only those who vote NO to Davis can pick his successor, right? \*\* According to the current statutes, as long as you vote “YES” or “NO” on the recall, you can vote in the replacement election. If you skip that vote, your vote in the replacement election is not counted. This might be the subject of a court challenge. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/39 "2003-07-27T06:38:45Z")
Thanks for that info, **BobT**. One more bit, if you don’t mind: Although Gray Davis may not be placed on the ballot as a candidate for the office (_c.f._ **Rico’s** post of July 22), what do the statutes have to say about write-in votes? I understand some states never count them, other states always do, and still _other_ states require that write-in votes be counted only for certain pre-approved candidates, as surreal as that sounds. How does California handle this? Could voters who vote against removal write Davis back in so he gets a plurality even if the referendum to remove is passed? ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909/40 "2003-07-27T16:43:52Z")
As one might expect, the statutes surrounding recalls aren’t very clear on write-ins. I couldn’t find any mention of them. The best I could find was: A recall election shall be conducted, canvassed, and the results declared in substantially the manner provided by law for a regular election for the office. Poking around I did find out that a recall election cannot be called against a replacement candidate until that person has held office for … 90 days! Long honeymoon you get in this situation! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/californians-wholl-enter-the-recall/189909.md?page=3)