# call me a jerk - you jerk - spank

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947>\
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**Created:** [January 28, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947 "2014-01-28T14:04:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/1 "2014-01-28T14:04:46Z")

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In this MPSIMS thread **Pretender919** states in the op -

> [@Pretender919](#):
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> **So, let 'er rip.** I’m an open book. As long as this post is I’m sure I left stuff out. Ask me questions. **Tell me I’m a jerk.** Tell me you’ve been there and what you’ve done. Give me advice.

Bolding mine.  
Which prompted

[Quote=Inna Minnit]

Boo hoo. Her body went to hell carrying your babies. Left alone 12 hours a day to raise them. She became your brood mare not your lover. And now you are unhappy. So you solve that by sticking your penis in another woman. A married woman. A mother. And now to be happy you want to tear two families to shreds. So you can be haaaaaaaaappy.

What a waste of human skin you are.  
[/Quote]  
and that brought about -

[Quote= Idle Thoughts]  
You’ve been here for awhile and should very well know this by now, so I’m giving you a warning for this post… Take it to the Pit and out of this topic.  
[/quote]

There appears to be a conflict of actions here.

Which is a greater transgression: An op that requests personal insults in MPSIMS or a response that obliges that op?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/2 "2014-01-28T14:09:11Z")

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Uh…the post responding. Do you not have big boy words of your own, that you were totally obligated to insult him because he asked you? Your post could have been said without the direct insult.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/3 "2014-01-28T14:16:08Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Uh…the post responding. Do you not have big boy words of your own, that you were totally obligated to insult him because he asked you? Your post could have been said without the direct insult.

I don’t the the insult was from the **BubbaDog.** He’s asking a question about another poster.

That being said, I don’t think the rules change just because the OP says it’s ok.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/4 "2014-01-28T14:32:52Z")

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The OP of that topic is new to these forums, so I don’t think he knows that the “Let 'er rip” forum is the BBQ Pit.  
Other, long-time posters should know better, however.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/5 "2014-01-28T14:34:42Z")

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> [@Southern\_Yankee](#):
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> I don’t the the insult was from the **BubbaDog.** He’s asking a question about another poster.

Yep, I didn’t post at all in that forum.

> [@](#):
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> That being said, I don’t think the rules change just because the OP says it’s ok.

But the decorum if not a rule was broken first by the op. It’s as if a poster posted in this forum the question," How do I make a chocolate milkshake?"  
The content of the op would prompt a mod to move it to another forum.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/6 "2014-01-28T14:36:29Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> The OP of that topic is new to these forums, so I don’t think he knows that the “Let 'er rip” forum is the BBQ Pit.  
> Other, long-time posters should know better, however.

Makes sense. Thanks.

Just my suggestion but it seems like the thread should have move to the Pit based on the op.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/7 "2014-01-28T15:12:18Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Uh…the post responding. Do you not have big boy words of your own, that you were totally obligated to insult him because he asked you? Your post could have been said without the direct insult.

I like to call it the _Oliver hardy Defense_: “_Now_ look what you made me do!”

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/8 "2014-01-28T16:42:35Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I like to call it the _Oliver hardy Defense_: “_Now_ look what you made me do!”

“Why do you make me hit you?”

Sorry, I should have noticed the poster was different. My point still stands!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/9 "2014-01-28T17:31:19Z")

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I have to say, after the “jerk - spank” title, this actual thread is a bit of a comedown.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/10 "2014-01-28T18:31:05Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> “Why do you make me hit you?”
> 
> Sorry, I should have noticed the poster was different. My point still stands!

Well, just to clear up any doubt I got a hold of some of them big boy words and have them ready in case I need them.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/11 "2014-01-28T19:20:01Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I like to call it the _Oliver hardy Defense_: “_Now_ look what you made me do!”

I prefer the Rob Anybody Defense:\* “An’ things ha’ come to a pretty pass, ye ken, if people are going to leave stuff like that aroound where innocent people could accidentally smash the door doon and lever the bars aside and take the big chain off’f the cupboard and pick the lock and drink it!”\*

Crivins! :smack:

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/12 "2014-01-28T19:34:38Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> I prefer the Rob Anybody Defense:\* “An’ things ha’ come to a pretty pass, ye ken, if people are going to leave stuff like that aroound where innocent people could accidentally smash the door doon and lever the bars aside and take the big chain off’f the cupboard and pick the lock and drink it!”\*
> 
> Crivins! :smack:

And I prefer a dram or three from the boot flask before trying to quote things like that accurately. 😃

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/13 "2014-01-28T23:55:25Z")

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Where is that thread?

I agree with Bubba in that perhaps the thread would have been best moved.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/14 "2014-01-29T00:06:53Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Well, just to clear up any doubt I got a hold of some of them big boy words and have them ready in case I need them.

Do please bear in mind that it’s agin the rules to insult people outside the Pit regardless of ones’ syntactical maturity.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/15 "2014-01-29T01:14:29Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Uh…the post responding. Do you not have big boy words of your own, that you were totally obligated to insult him because he asked you? Your post could have been said without the direct insult.

So **BubbaDog** asks for feedback and opinion and your response is to insult him (“big boy words”)? Classy move.

Of course, I’m sure you would have been more polite had you figured out that he wasn’t talking about himself. No doubt.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/16 "2014-01-30T00:06:56Z")

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Mod probably should have issued a note reminding everyone that despite what the OP says, insults of other posters are not allowed outside of the pit. Then anyone insulting -after- that gets a paddling.

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/17 "2014-01-30T01:30:56Z")

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“Call me a jerk” doesn’t necessarily mean you have to do it so directly. It would have been perfectly possible for **Inna Minnit** to make it clear he/she thinks **ThePretender** is acting like a jerk in [that thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=713934) (link for **DrDeth** ) without resorting to overly judgemental rantings that involve calling him “a waste of human skin”. The “Oliver Hardy defence” (I like it) would be even less appropriate than the post itself.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/18 "2014-01-30T08:04:13Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Do please bear in mind that it’s agin the rules to insult people outside the Pit regardless of ones’ syntactical maturity.

[nitpick]  
One’s  
[/nitpick]

Not sure if that was a jejune syntactical error, or not.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-me-a-jerk-you-jerk-spank/679947/19 "2014-01-30T14:59:24Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> So **BubbaDog** asks for feedback and opinion and your response is to insult him (“big boy words”)? Classy move.
> 
> Of course, I’m sure you would have been more polite had you figured out that he wasn’t talking about himself. No doubt.

If it’s any comfort to you, I got over it real fast.
