# Call of Duty: Black Ops **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 8, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909 "2010-11-08T15:44:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/1 "2010-11-08T15:44:25Z")
I wasn’t originally going to get the game but then I found out that there is a zombie mode at the end of it, just like there was in World at War. I’m hoping the campaign is good because although I’ll dabble in multi player I prefer single player by far. Anyone getting a midnight copy? I want to but I know that if I get my hands on it tonight I won’t go to school or the gym tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/2 "2010-11-08T15:51:19Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > I wasn’t originally going to get the game but then I found out that there is a zombie mode at the end of it, just like there was in World at War. Not only is there a zombie mode, but the four people fighting zombies are… JFK, Richard Nixon, Fidel Castro and Robert McNamara I’ve never played a Call of Duty before, but I almost want to get just for that reason. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/3 "2010-11-08T16:30:13Z")
Everyone I know with an early copy says that Cod Blops is a huge improvement over MW2. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/4 "2010-11-08T21:01:31Z")
The PC version is getting dedicated servers, right? My old troop might be interested if so. ---
**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/5 "2010-11-08T21:13:46Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > Everyone I know with an early copy says that Cod Blops is a huge improvement over MW2. I thought MW2 was pretty good too. I can’t wait for this… ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/6 "2010-11-08T23:43:10Z")
I’ll put $10 on it being a short, unsatisfying, but hectic and frantic, single player experience only put into the game to validate the $60 you essentially put into a MW2 multiplayer reskin. Which isn’t to say I don’t have it pre-loaded on Steam and am now just waiting for it to be released into the wild. I’m such an easy mark like that. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/7 "2010-11-09T04:55:42Z")
I’m not getting it for a week or two, for glitches to hopefully be found and extinguished. Also, I’ve had some people tell me it’s pretty much a 90% MW2 reskin, with some recoil on weapons and overhauling the killstreak system. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/8 "2010-11-09T05:03:19Z")
The unlock system is different too. I don’t like unlock systems, but this one is better since you like… buy unlocks. Lots of it is just balance issues, which is what MW2 needed the most. It still has way too much stuff popping up on the screen. Achievements and garbage like that. > [@JXJohns](#): > > I thought MW2 was pretty good too. I can’t wait for this… Well, for these people, “huge improvement” means “way different” If you loved MW2, don’t take it as a recommendation. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/9 "2010-11-09T06:22:32Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > The PC version is getting dedicated servers, right? My old troop might be interested if so. They’re having a sponsored official dedi program similar to bc2. Which kinda sucks, but sucks massively less than the abortion that is mw2. I’m not getting it for anywhere near full price. When steam drops it under $20 I’ll consider it. But since this is activision we’re talking about, that probably won’t be until Christmas 2012. ---
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/10 "2010-11-09T07:59:08Z")
The courier just delivered my copy, to my office, at nine thirty in the morning. I now have to sit here staring at it until I can get home. And the second best bit about dedicated servers, after fast stable connections, is the presence of admins\* to ban the whiny fucks who respond to every death with invective and accusations of hacking. I can see many angry 12 year olds whining to mommy that they can’t play anymore because they’ve been banned from all the local servers. \*The bulk of the popular servers in SA are run by local ISPs, so they have very strict rules on their servers in an effort to keep them pleasant for the average player. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/11 "2010-11-10T03:42:50Z")
Add “broken” to the list of descriptors. Freeze errors are rampant. I’m unable to play for more than 20 minutes before the game freezes completely, forcing a full manual restart. (I’ve got a 2010 gaming-grade rig.) ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/12 "2010-11-10T07:29:50Z")
Whining on the forums has now become so bad that the moderators on it have essentially posted that they “don’t want to hear it if you don’t like it.” Any further threads will be removed and infracted. Geez. > **[Relax and Unwind on a Massage Lounger in Charleston - Your Ultimate Guide](https://blackopsforum.com/)** > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHOmBV4js\_E WATCH PROMO VIDEO Relax and Unwind on a Massage Lounger in Charleston – Your Ultimate Guide Are you feeling stressed out and in need of \[…\] ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/13 "2010-11-10T14:37:48Z")
Right, but that’s just some random fan forum. Not the place to voice your concern to the developer. And yeah, don’t buy this game on PC. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/14 "2010-11-10T14:42:00Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > Add “broken” to the list of descriptors. > > Freeze errors are rampant. I’m unable to play for more than 20 minutes before the game freezes completely, forcing a full manual restart. (I’ve got a 2010 gaming-grade rig.) We got the PS3 version, and had no problems with freezing or other errors in about 3-4 hours of gameplay last night. My only real complaint is that I completely suck at it (in multiplayer), but I don’t think I can blame the developers for that. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/15 "2010-11-10T14:44:44Z")
Looks like the PC version is suffering form at least one bad memory leak causing the game to experience lag and CPU based lock ups. Common Treyarch! ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/16 "2010-11-10T15:07:26Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > We got the PS3 version, and had no problems with freezing or other errors in about 3-4 hours of gameplay last night. My only real complaint is that I completely suck at it (in multiplayer), but I don’t think I can blame the developers for that. The same. I played it for about six hours last night on my PS3 and I didn’t have one problem with it. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/17 "2010-11-10T15:09:26Z")
360 version playing fine for me. Played the campaign yesterday and some bot killing. The addition of bots is great IMO. Gives you a way to learn the maps and try out the new streaks etc. Nice easter egg on the start screen. Left/Right trigger to escape chair. Walk around to computer and enter cd, then doa. A cool top down shooter starts up. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/18 "2010-11-10T16:13:57Z")
Heard that the lobby system is still the same as Modern Warfare 2, as in, it’s horrible. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/19 "2010-11-10T16:27:02Z")
Yep. Same same. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/20 "2010-11-10T19:21:31Z")
Well, on the plus side, they don’t use a retarded lobby system of any type on the PC version this time around, as far as I know. How long is the single player? Another 4 hour game? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909.md?page=2)