# Call of Duty: Black Ops

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 8, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909 "2010-11-08T15:44:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/61 "2010-12-07T11:48:32Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> How’s this game treating you guys?
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> The new patch made it so spawning after a chopper gunner now doesn’t bring up the red diamonds on people for location after a few seconds. Against good teams, that’s more than enough time to shoot it down, so I know a lot of folks switching to just reconnaissance killstreaks, because it’s simply not worth it.
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> I played with someone tonight in free for all, so let’s get a room going on the 360, shall we?

Just call me in as always, LOUNE. I’ll try to book some XBox time tonight!

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/62 "2010-12-07T14:14:54Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> I played with someone tonight in free for all, so let’s get a room going on the 360, shall we?

Sorry I missed your invite last night, at the time I was trying to both play and talk on the phone and neither was doing particularly well at the time. I ended up bailing on the game.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/63 "2010-12-07T16:31:57Z")

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After comparing reviews, I selected the Wii version of Black Ops over the PC version. for christmas.

As a die-hard PC gamer, I am astonished by this development.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/64 "2010-12-07T17:59:56Z")

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Does anyone have any good loadouts? I haven’t really been able to improve on the vanilla Assault kit for what I usually spend my time doing (covering fire for Domination and Headquarters).

Does anyone feel like a certain gun is overpowered?  
Some comments:  
-The campaign mode is incredibly engaging, I like the story and can’t wait to play another level.  
-I like the maps being from different eras, reminds me of Timesplitters.  
-The Zombie mode is ridiculous and makes no sense with the rest of the game, but I still really like it.  
-I have no idea why programmers thought it’d be a good idea to allow swastika’s on gamer tags. Like prepubescent homophobic racists need help voicing their views.  
-I wish there were more options with Barebones mode.  
-That exploding car and twin gatling gun perk is absurd, but they’re nice addictions anyway.  
-The lobby setup is still shit, and getting kicked or stalling irritates the hell out of me every 10 minutes or so.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/65 "2010-12-07T18:10:28Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> Does anyone have any good loadouts? I haven’t really been able to improve on the vanilla Assault kit for what I usually spend my time doing (covering fire for Domination and Headquarters).
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> Does anyone feel like a certain gun is overpowered?  
> Some comments:  
> -The campaign mode is incredibly engaging, I like the story and can’t wait to play another level.  
> -I like the maps being from different eras, reminds me of Timesplitters.  
> -The Zombie mode is ridiculous and makes no sense with the rest of the game, but I still really like it.  
> -I have no idea why programmers thought it’d be a good idea to allow swastika’s on gamer tags. Like prepubescent homophobic racists need help voicing their views.  
> -I wish there were more options with Barebones mode.  
> -That exploding car and twin gatling gun perk is absurd, but they’re nice addictions anyway.  
> -The lobby setup is still shit, and getting kicked or stalling irritates the hell out of me every 10 minutes or so.

What’s the assault kit? Light machine gun? If so, you need to switch that. They’re not too horrible, but they take forever to reload (you need to be rocking Sleight of Hand for your second perk) and they take forever to move around. You’re really much better with the assault rifle class.

Problem is, even if you’re using Sleight of Hand, you’re still all over the place because you can’t have Steady Aim, so you pick your poison.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/66 "2010-12-07T18:15:55Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> What’s the assault kit? Light machine gun? If so, you need to switch that. They’re not too horrible, but they take forever to reload (you need to be rocking Sleight of Hand for your second perk) and they take forever to move around. You’re really much better with the assault rifle class.
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> Problem is, even if you’re using Sleight of Hand, you’re still all over the place because you can’t have Steady Aim, so you pick your poison.

M16, with it’s semi auto quick bursts I’ve killed 4 or 5 guys before without reloading. And I think the vanilla kit includes the Slight of Hand perk.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/67 "2010-12-07T18:20:16Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> M16, with it’s semi auto quick bursts I’ve killed 4 or 5 guys before without reloading. And I think the vanilla kit includes the Slight of Hand perk.

Ah. Yeah, the M16, you’ve really gotta hang back with. You can’t really run and gun much, or else you get severely outclassed by the AK74, the AK47, and the Commando. The M16 (and the G11) is pretty much a middle ground with assault rifle and sniper rifle so far as the game’s concerned. The M16 has great range, and I find that slapping a silencer on it helps to keep the gun on target a little better.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/68 "2010-12-07T18:37:30Z")

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So you’re saying an AK47 would allow me a little more mobility?

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/69 "2010-12-07T19:11:37Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> I played with someone tonight in free for all, so let’s get a room going on the 360, shall we?

Ha! I think that was me!

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/70 "2010-12-07T21:05:59Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> So you’re saying an AK47 would allow me a little more mobility?

Very much so. The AK74 would give you even more.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/71 "2010-12-07T21:09:27Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> Ha! I think that was me!

It was. Nice window camping, by the way. We should play again soon.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/72 "2010-12-09T15:26:31Z")

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Anyone else playing the PC version and finding multiplayer buggy as all get out? It freezes for me pretty regularly.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/73 "2010-12-09T15:42:07Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> It was. Nice window camping, by the way. We should play again soon.

I know. I get a lot of crap for that, but I am absolutely unable to move and shoot at the same time. So I try to pick a defensive position and see how long I last before someone catches on and grenades me out.

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**Author:** ![Cowboy8467](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Cowboy8467](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowboy8467)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/74 "2010-12-09T15:53:25Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Anyone else playing the PC version and finding multiplayer buggy as all get out? It freezes for me pretty regularly.

Yes, it is extremely buggy. My understanding is that the developers are aware of this issue on the PC and are supposed to be coming out with a pretty big patch sometime in the near future to address it.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/75 "2010-12-10T01:55:44Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> I know. I get a lot of crap for that, but I am absolutely unable to move and shoot at the same time. So I try to pick a defensive position and see how long I last before someone catches on and grenades me out.

That’s funny. Probably not as much for you, or anyone that gets killed by you, but that’s still kinda funny. Call of Duty is very camper-friendly, so it’s a good game in which you can do it and get some kind of rewards.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/76 "2010-12-10T14:20:55Z")

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[Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUG--no9mk) is an interesting little moment I had last night in a Hardcore Team Deathmatch. It happened so fast when I was actually doing it that I had to go back and rewatch it in the theater. And yes - confirmed, I detonated, the guy was unharmed.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/77 "2010-12-10T14:26:07Z")

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Last night in a Hardcore Team Deathmatch I was doing passably well (leading my team, scooped up a Mortar Team in a care package I called in)…and my teammates rewarded me by kicking me. Bastards :mad: Who came up with the idea of kicking your teammates without a vote?

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/78 "2010-12-10T15:00:07Z")

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id.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/79 "2010-12-10T15:06:49Z")

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How do you get kicked without a vote?

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**Author:** ![diku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@diku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diku)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/call-of-duty-black-ops/559909/80 "2010-12-10T15:07:16Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnUG--no9mk) is an interesting little moment I had last night in a Hardcore Team Deathmatch. It happened so fast when I was actually doing it that I had to go back and rewatch it in the theater. And yes - confirmed, I detonated, the guy was unharmed.

Looks like Flak Jacket to me. It could handle that explosion.

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