# Calling all Fantasy Football refugees! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 4, 2003, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768 "2003-02-04T20:13:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/101 "2003-04-24T21:57:38Z")
heheh. touche, WL. There’s still 2 WRs available I would have taken ahead of HotRod (maybe 3). But Jimmy Sniff ain’t one of em … he’s nearly washed up. I predrafted 5 people, lets see if I can get one them with my pick being 6th. (I’ll continue to mock you. :p) ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/102 "2003-04-24T22:06:16Z")
You mean the Jimmy Smith that had the exact same yardage and more TDs than Rod Smith? Even after an off-season when he nearly died from the flu? He’s going to put up 1200/10. Rod had exactly the same number of 100 yard games last year that I did (hint: not 5). However, I will admit that there’s 1 WR I overlooked that I’m kicking myself for. Oh well. There’s depth galore when picking up that WR3 or WR4. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/103 "2003-04-24T22:09:41Z")
I dunno. There are a lot of question marks right now about the WR pool. Seems like there are _very_ few combinations of good QB/good WR out there this year, resulting in very few sure thing go-to guys to choose from. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/104 "2003-04-24T23:42:31Z")
How many 80-yard games? Rod 5, Jimmy 7 ( **Munch** 0… unless there’s something you’re not telling us). How many 30-or-less-yard games? Rod 1, Jimmy 4. Total stats last year were 1012 and 5 for Rod, 1027 and 7 for Jimmy. In terms of predicting future performance, the difference there is negligible, and fully attributable to external factors. I’m confident that the continuing problems of the Jags and the superb overall Denver offense will more than make up for last year’s disparity. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/105 "2003-04-25T01:18:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NurseCarmen \* > \*\*I was soooooooo tempted to go for Bennett. \*\* But you didn’t because of all the action Moe Williams took away from him at the goal line, right? Gah! I’m Future Crack Dealers of America, BTW. ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/106 "2003-04-25T01:35:01Z")
Hey count me in on the SDMB 14 man league. Is it set up yet? If not, I can do it. I have a lot of time on my hands the next week or two. Man, hurry up football season! ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/107 "2003-04-25T02:42:07Z")
Peerless Price (taken by neuroman) was my “maybe third” WR I was referring to. I, also, avoid any WR in a new system if I can help it…but Price it head shoulders above the other slobs playing WR in Atlanta now. He should do OK. Instead of 6 picks left and 5 people predrafted, we’re down to 5 picks and 4 predrafted. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/108 "2003-04-25T02:44:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by neuroman \* > \*\*But you didn’t because of all the action Moe Williams took away from him at the goal line, right? Gah! > B] Moe _and_ Dante. Sheesh, I felt sorry for the poor guy. Finally, towards the end of the year, he figured out the only way he would score is bust out for 60-80 yards three games in a row. Even then they have Randy throwing goal line passes. There was a flash of brilliance in November, but then it disappeared again. Did he change from cleats to clown shoes? With McKinnie getting the subscription to _Playbook by Tape_, complete with Tutoring and color glossy photos, he might have a clue how to run block this year. Do you think defenses figured out that they _never ran_ McKinnie’s way? ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/109 "2003-04-25T02:53:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by White Lightning \* > \*\* I’m confident that the continuing problems of the Jags and the superb overall Denver offense will more than make up for last year’s disparity. \*\* Yes and no. Jacksonville/Jimmy Smith pro: • The offensive line can’t be worse than it was last year, can it? • Jimmy is the only real weapon that the Jags have at WR – Bobby Shaw? hehehhe. con: • Brunell. How long can he be effective? He already was starting to look old last year. Denver/Rod Smith pro: • Great offensive system • Rod is still a very talented WR con: • Jake Plummer – not neccesarily a knock on his skills (although I think that Griese was more talented) – but any QB learning a new offensive system takes some time, and also for QBs to build raport and “instinct” with WRs doesn’t happen overnight. • Ahlie Lelie – His numbers are going to be better this year, and with Clinton Portis scoring about a gazillion TDs this year, there’s only so many balls to go around. My (worthless) predictiions? Really, the more I think about it, the more I think that they are nearly equal. If either one of them did much better than 80/1000/8 I’ll be very suprised. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/110 "2003-04-25T03:17:43Z")
I’ll keep walking out on this limb here and predict that Brunell won’t be starting by season’s end. I think you’re about right though. Most likely Rod and Jimbo will end up about equal, but a fantasy strategy of mine is, when all else is equal, look at the upside. Rod’s upside absolutely dwarfs Jimmy’s. Jimmy will not do better than last year, or **Munch** ’s 1200/8 prediction at the absolute most. I’ll grant that it’d take huge steps on Plummer’s part, but Rod has the talent and ability to become a truly great wideout again. He _could_ go for 1500/10 and no one would be surprised. Oh, and the situation in Jax can get slightly worse. I think they’re going to feel the loss of Stacey Mack more than they expect to. And Brunell’s washed up, and he’ll show it. The O-line certainly can’t go anywhere but up. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/111 "2003-04-25T03:49:48Z")
hustler’s about to go right now. Then everyone’s predrafted till me. Then **Carmen** ’s up again. I’m on pins and needles. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/112 "2003-04-25T04:10:08Z")
I’m predrafted for 7. Things are getting interesting. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/113 "2003-04-25T13:59:53Z")
Munch is up in 393, CamelToes in 429. Who the hell took Bennet! He was _MINE_! **mouthbreather** , I’m really getting to like Ahlie Lelie. I think you are dead on, He’ll be tough to ignore after last years match up against Oakland. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/114 "2003-04-25T14:19:53Z")
mouth, Peerless was also the one I was talking about. For some reason, I’m not completely sold on Vick - my apprehension is much like WL’s regarding Priest. Great athlete, too many questionable plays. I also think you’re right on your analysis regarding Smith v. Smith. The only thing I would add is that McCaffery and Sharpe are still taking TDs, and Portis is much more likely to catch a ball out of the backfield than Taylor is. Plus, can anyone name Jacksonville’s 2nd WR or TE? I think the WR is Muhammad, but I’m not sure. Kyle Brady isn’t exactly threatening to get in the end zone. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/115 "2003-04-25T15:02:01Z")
Jax’s WR set, going 6 deep (as of the end of the season). Jimmy Smith Bobby Shaw Pat Johnson Kevin Lockett Micah Ross Jimmy Redmond Yes, after Shaw I had to go check. 🙂 Pete Mitchell is their backup TE. Not exactly an awe-inspiring group. Is Jax going to go for Byron Leftwich in the draft? It’s a very good possibility. ---
**Author:** ![waddamaroon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@waddamaroon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waddamaroon)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/116 "2003-04-25T15:55:18Z")
> [@](#): > > **Mouthbreather said:** > > Is Jax going to go for Byron Leftwich in the draft? It’s a very good possibility. I’ve read several reports that say da Bears take Leftwich at four. They just signed Slash, so I guess that makes “Bear” sense. That gives the Cowboys Dwayne Robertson at five. Man, him and LaRoi Glover together? That’s a pretty good tackle combo. Of course, that and Roy Williams is all they have going for them. ---
**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/117 "2003-04-25T16:00:52Z")
Damn hamsters must not have been fed this morning. Anyway, I wanted to pick Bennett with 6.02, but feared all the top TEs would be gone by the time it cycled back to pick 7.07. And Shockey looks like the dominant TE in the league. I’m game for joining the 14 person draft. Is 14 an arbitrary number? Because 12 (or even 10) would be better, I think. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/118 "2003-04-25T16:01:24Z")
Hmm, the reports that I’ve read (and trust) have the Bears taking Dwayne Robertson, Unless Houston trades down and someone takes him at 3. I am anxious to see how the draft plays out. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/119 "2003-04-25T16:08:01Z")
Fuck! I thought Garcia was still available. back to the drawing board. I’ll have my pick in a few. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768/120 "2003-04-25T16:12:27Z")
Yeah, 14 is ambitious. I’ll start a new thread come Monday morning, with hopes to fill it by 11:00am (Central). So far we have: neuroman White Lightning Munch jk1245 mouthbreater waddamaroon NurseCarmen Shibb WL’s friend That’s 9. I’m sure we can scramble for 3 or 5 more in that time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-fantasy-football-refugees/152768.md?page=7)