# Calling all Great Minds: The Theory of Everything **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 13, 2012, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862 "2012-11-13T06:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/81 "2012-11-14T16:35:58Z")
> [@Anthem\_0](#): > > No wonder this timeline is so behind. And _here_, folks, is where I think the heart of the matter lies-why he is afraid to tell us the basis of his ideas. **Anthem (0)**, what specifically do you mean when you refer to “this timeline”? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/82 "2012-11-14T16:35:59Z")
> [@Anthem\_0](#): > > Truly amazing. You guys seriously didn’t know that science is ADMITTEDLY wildly ignorant as to what comprises the overwhelming majority of space? Yet, you are all in here ardently defending science, as though they have the answers all laid out neatly for you? It’s not even as though I’m disputing claims which science has made…I’m merely expanding the sphere of knowledge. If you’d spent the time you’ve been arguing with me actually attempting to understand the concept, you’d have known that [virtually] nothing I’ve said is even in opposition to science. All I’ve done is add a touch of perception to the perspective of the picture - and doing so sharpens the clarity of the image considerably. > > Group conditioning is a frightening thing to witness. No wonder this timeline is so behind. actually you’re totally missing what we’re saying. we’re saying there is [this](http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-is-dark-energy/)explanation, which is about the best anyone’s got on the topic. that’s far from anyone saying “we derp don’t know!” that’s just a characterization you are trying to employ to somehow leverage credence. what \*you \*are saying is \*they \*are wrong, and that \*you \*have more suitable answers. then you act irritated when no one buys into your clap-trap. what we are saying, over and over and over and over, is _why should we listen to you over established science?_ what makes your seemingly insane musing worth consideration? who even are you? where did you gain this special knowledge? what makes you more qualified than known experts? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/83 "2012-11-14T16:38:41Z")
Who are you who is so wise in the ways of science? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/84 "2012-11-14T16:39:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And _here_, folks, is where I think the heart of the matter lies-why he is afraid to tell us the basis of his ideas. > > **Anthem (0)**, what specifically do you mean when you refer to “this timeline”? oh shit…we’re dealing with a time lord here. _takes half-step back_ ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/85 "2012-11-14T16:39:53Z")
> [@Dr.Colossus](#): > > where did you gain this special knowledge? On another timeline. He only visits this one. He’s registered to vote in a totally different timeline. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/86 "2012-11-14T16:41:09Z")
> [@Dr.Colossus](#): > > oh shit…we’re dealing with a time lord here. > > _takes half-step back_ No, it’s worse than that. **Anthem (0)**, where are you from? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/87 "2012-11-14T16:43:28Z")
> [@Anthem\_0](#): > > You guys seriously didn’t know that science is ADMITTEDLY wildly ignorant as to what comprises the overwhelming majority of space? In your rush to congratulate yourself I think you are misunderstanding what people are saying. I don’t think anybody on the board disagrees with the fact that almost all the matter and energy in the universe is dark matter and energy. They’re disagreeing with the “we know nothing about 99% of space” comment that you attributed to “science,” when it was actually one scientist saying we know nearly nothing about dark matter (which makes up something close to 99 percent of matter). Meanwhile, most of your OP is still incoherent and it does contain numerous errors that were explained to you by other posters, including **Smeghead** , **Andy L** , and **Stranger On A Train**. ---
**Author:** ![Anthem\_0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Anthem\_0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anthem_0)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/88 "2012-11-14T16:44:30Z")
> [@Dr.Colossus](#): > > maybe start [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter)? do you even realize that the entirety of that link can be summarized as “we don’t have any idea what it IS, but we do know that it comprises the overwhelming majority of STUFF in the universe, and it doesn’t interact with light.” Thank you for proving my point for me…though it is disturbing that you evidently didn’t realize you were doing that. > [@](#): > > …can i answer what knowledge science has without referring to someone else’s studies on the topic? > you just asked me to explain what science knows–but only if i am the only source? you just contradicted yourself. Indeed, and in doing so, all you did was prove my point EXACTLY…which is that science doesn’t KNOW anything about it, other than there’s tons of it everywhere but light doesn’t reflect off of it so we can’t see it at all. The fact that you didn’t even realize that’s what it’s saying is…just, wow. > [@](#): > > but it \*does \*explain why you are so off base about things–if you refuse to look at established science and just come up with your own answers, it really does explain the disconnect in your theory from actual science. what “established science” was in that link you posted? Why would you post a link to something that proves the exact opposite of the point you’re trying to prove? > [@](#): > > ah. so then neither do you. so why bring it up? > you can’t both assert we know nothing of it but then try to assert you have figured out some grand theory because \*you \*understand it. (you should also take a moment to update the wikipedia page on dark matter to “WE KNOW NOTHING.” well, everyone else but _you_, obviously. This is just embarrassing. You post a link which outlines in explicit detail how science knows NOTHING about this theorized substance, then launch into a defense of the depth of scientific understanding on the subject which it admittedly knows nothing about. Then you cap it off by claiming that BECAUSE science doesn’t know anything about it, then clearly I can’t have a theory which explains, and indeed _predicts_, the existence of dark matter. Yet this is somehow offensive to you because it isn’t on the wikipedia link which you clearly didn’t read at any rate. ---
**Author:** ![Fatalis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ccd318/32.png) [@Fatalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fatalis)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/89 "2012-11-14T16:46:02Z")
You earlier stated that we live inside of the sun. Science is pretty concrete on the concept of the Sun. Explain how we live inside of the Sun please. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/90 "2012-11-14T16:46:53Z")
**Anthem (0)**-what do you mean by “this timeline”, and where/when are you from? edited to add: The answers to these questions are the keys to understanding what he is talking about, folks. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/91 "2012-11-14T16:54:23Z")
Sorry, just to summarize the OP… the theory of everything is that the asteroid belt is the point of a cosmic focal point at which that not just light but… everything gets inverted. This is proved because it takes light 42 minutes EXACTLY to get to the asteroid belt, and that only gas giants exist beyond the asteroid belt. Of course this reverts back after another yet-to-be-determined distance because of objects past Neptune, possibly because of dark matter. And the various doctorates and other scientific professionals on this board have the barest of training and our minds are just puny to begin with. I have to echo Czarcasm’s demands for the source of education. Anthem, your use of words like spin, quantum, dimension, etc. are woefully misused even on a HS level. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/92 "2012-11-14T17:00:26Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > **Anthem (0)**-what do you mean by “this timeline”, and where/when are you from? That’s an interesting variation on the Ad Hominem fallacy, to attack the being from another dimension rather than their argument. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/93 "2012-11-14T17:06:21Z")
**Anthem** , I have seen the theories you have posted before and have thoroughly rebutted them on other forums, but I will do so again. 1 - IN and OUT in a contra-definition universe (which we clearly live in) are transposed and become their orthogonal values of between and betwixt (for those new to this model, betwixt is the unitary prime of between for any mathematical operation). 2 - Therefore, the proposed mirror effect stated in the OP, mathematically results in a series of fractal landscapes that converge in a singularity. For particles to exist in this space-time concept would require each particle to have a partner particle of exactly 1/10th the mass. These particles have never been detected. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/94 "2012-11-14T17:14:25Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > **Anthem** , I have seen the theories you have posted before and have thoroughly rebutted them on other forums, but I will do so again. > > 1 - IN and OUT in a contra-definition universe (which we clearly live in) are transposed and become their orthogonal values of between and betwixt (for those new to this model, betwixt is the unitary prime of between for any mathematical operation). > > 2 - Therefore, the proposed mirror effect stated in the OP, mathematically results in a series of fractal landscapes that converge in a singularity. For particles to exist in this space-time concept would require each particle to have a partner particle of exactly 1/10th the mass. > > These particles have never been detected. You clearly speak his language. What timeline are you from? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/95 "2012-11-14T17:18:46Z")
I completely agree with the OP. Or at least I assume I will once I read it. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/96 "2012-11-14T17:33:59Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > **Anthem** , I have seen the theories you have posted before and have thoroughly rebutted them on other forums, but I will do so again. > > 1 - IN and OUT in a contra-definition universe (which we clearly live in) are transposed and become their orthogonal values of between and betwixt (for those new to this model, betwixt is the unitary prime of between for any mathematical operation). > > 2 - Therefore, the proposed mirror effect stated in the OP, mathematically results in a series of fractal landscapes that converge in a singularity. For particles to exist in this space-time concept would require each particle to have a partner particle of exactly 1/10th the mass. > > These particles have never been detected. Alas, your post leaves me betwixt _bafflement_, _bewilderment_ and their imaginary orthogonal axial _befuddlement_. Perhaps **Anthem (0)** or his derivative operands can furnish me with an explanation in plain English. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/97 "2012-11-14T17:38:55Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > … in plain English. Not likely. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/98 "2012-11-14T17:43:58Z")
> [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > Alas, your post leaves me betwixt _bafflement_, _bewilderment_ and their imaginary orthogonal axial _befuddlement_. Interestingly, that results in the precise coordinates of my dog who ran away from home yesterday. Thank you for finding my dog. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/99 "2012-11-14T17:44:04Z")
> [@Anthem\_0](#): > > 42 minutes is the time it takes to cross infinity while moving at the maximum allowable constant speed. I just felt that we need to pull this statement out for a full examination. It takes 42 minutes to cross infinity. 42 minutes. Infinity. It takes 42 minutes to cross infinity. That was actually written and submitted. Why is anyone expecting coherence from this guy again? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862/100 "2012-11-14T17:44:31Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Not likely. Give him a break: Different Ficton–\>Different Science and all that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-great-minds-the-theory-of-everything/640862.md?page=6)