# Calling all telephone/crypto/comm guys! (Warning: Geeky!)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-telephone-crypto-comm-guys-warning-geeky/121549>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 30, 2002, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-telephone-crypto-comm-guys-warning-geeky/121549 "2002-07-30T16:43:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-telephone-crypto-comm-guys-warning-geeky/121549/1 "2002-07-30T16:43:38Z")

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Alright, I’ll get right to the point.

I like cool toys. Therefore, I’m going to by a pair of TA-954 desk phones (brand spankin’ new US Army surplus - never been used), and am going to try to wire 'em up so I can use it as my normal desk phone at home.

Some of the specs are confusing me. But, what I basically am looking for is anyone that’s either tried this, or has been able to simply slap a 2-wire copper landline into the side of the phone to get it to work. I don’t know what a typical “Baby Bell” runs on phone lines as voltage, and I don’t know what kind of carrier frequency it runs on. Yet, I know this thing usually works on a particular type of switchboard.

I guess my question is: is a military switchboard line and a typical residential line similar enough that I can get away with this, or will I have just a really cool looking paperweight?

Tripler  
I like my toys. . .

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**Author:** ![Starbury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Starbury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starbury)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-telephone-crypto-comm-guys-warning-geeky/121549/2 "2002-07-30T21:33:41Z")

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I don’t know if this will help you but here are the specs for it:

Technical Characteristics  
Channel Interface-Field Wire . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4-wire field cable  
Transmission Range . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4 km (2.4 mi) max  
Input Power-Power Drain:  
On Hook. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .300 mW, max  
Off Hook . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.5 W, max  
Power Requirement. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .+24 to +56 V DC  
Current Drain:  
On Hook. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .12.5 Ma, +24 V DC 5.0 Ma, +56 V DC  
Off Hook . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .62 Ma, +24 V DC  
25 Ma, +56 V DC  
Weight . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2.7 kg (5.8 lb)

I searched through a few message boards devoted to military gear, and it seems like the TA-954 can’t be hooked up to commercial telco lines. However, I did find a way to hook up rotary military phones if you ever need that – you need to change the rotary setting from 4-wire (military standard) to 2-wire (commercial standard). But it didn’t look like this was an option for the TA-954.

Oh well…at the very least its a cool topic of discussion at your next dinner party.

For anyone that’s interested, [here](http://www.mindspring.com/~gtwitty/fldphone.html) is a picture of one.

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-telephone-crypto-comm-guys-warning-geeky/121549/3 "2002-07-31T17:06:34Z")

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The TA-954 is a digital telephone. It won’t work. If you can get a TA-312, I know those work, but there’s no dial – maybe your telco still supports the ring generator? In any case, you could get a touch-tone dialer from Radio Shack.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-telephone-crypto-comm-guys-warning-geeky/121549/4 "2002-07-31T17:35:55Z")

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If nothing else, you should be able to replace the guts with those for a normal civilian telephone, and just hook up to the original speaker and microphone. It won’t be “authentic”, but it’d still look the same, and serve just as well as a conversation piece.

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**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-telephone-crypto-comm-guys-warning-geeky/121549/5 "2002-07-31T18:25:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Balthisar \*  
> \*\*The TA-954 is a digital telephone. It won’t work. If you can get a TA-312, I know those work, but there’s no dial – maybe your telco still supports the ring generator? In any case, you could get a touch-tone dialer from Radio Shack. \*\*

Aaah, just the sort of answer I was looking for. I assume if it sends a digital signal, there’s gotta be some rectifier or modem on some sort of switchboard to convert it to analog. I’ll just have to keep looking.

And **Chronos** , I may do just that. . . I’ll let you know.

Tripler  
I’m still gonna buy 'em. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-telephone-crypto-comm-guys-warning-geeky/121549/6 "2002-07-31T18:29:59Z")

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Cool! It’s got the ‘other’ four DTMF tone-combinations (or at least, buttons for them)! If you press the FO button, can you make a priority call to the local pizza place during peak hour? 🙂
