# Calling All Wordsmiths! Parenthetical, You\_And\_Me\_And\_Leslie **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 5, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-wordsmiths-parenthetical-you_and_me_and_leslie/227700 "2004-02-05T18:49:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ex\_Machina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2004, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-wordsmiths-parenthetical-you_and_me_and_leslie/227700/21 "2004-02-10T04:59:03Z")
> [@SiXSwordS](#): > > I noticed the French Connection when I did a GOOGLE search on this term. Would the _French_ pronouciation be holo **rEEm** or holo **rIm** or something guttural at the back of the throat? > > Personally, I’m leaning toward oronym because I recognize the ‘nym’ suffix. Still, I can’t find these in a dictionary (I’ve only tried merriam-webster) and I don’t think many people would recognize the words or be able to intuit there meaning. I still lean toward holorime since oronym was coined out of hand in 1980 by Gyles Brandreth. Holorime has at least some etymological pedigree. I found a site which claims to coin oronym as a word referring to the name of a mountain. (Oro- is a prefix which means mountain.) I have a suspicion that oronym was coined as a scientific-sounding alternative to ‘mondegreen.’ The idea behind a mondegreen is that it is a mishearing and not an intentional phonetic couplet. ---
**Author:** ![Moo\_the\_Magic\_Cow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@Moo\_the\_Magic\_Cow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moo_the_Magic_Cow)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-wordsmiths-parenthetical-you_and_me_and_leslie/227700/22 "2004-02-10T05:18:35Z")
> [@SiXSwordS](#): > > I noticed the French Connection when I did a GOOGLE search on this term. Would the _French_ pronouciation be holo **rEEm** or holo **rIm** or something guttural at the back of the throat? holo-reem With an incredibly soft, almost non-existent h. ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-wordsmiths-parenthetical-you_and_me_and_leslie/227700/23 "2004-02-10T18:51:41Z")
> [@devilsknew](#): > > I don’t really think **holorime** , according to the definition, describes this name phenomenon accurately. The “dual dirty name” has nothing in common with a holorime, if you think about it. Personally, I think it is a form of an amphibology. FWIW, the dirty part is secondary. In the situation I’m thinking of, in fact, there is nothing dirty, although it is a name. Just like, **SUE\_DUNHAM** ; there’s nothing dirty about it, it’s just ironic. **Haywood Jablomey** , Not so much dirty as sopomoric. Are these two exmples of oronyms or holorimes. ( I lean toward oronym because I don’t have to adopt an Inspector Cleauseau accent to say it.) ---
**Author:** ![FilmGeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@FilmGeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FilmGeek)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-wordsmiths-parenthetical-you_and_me_and_leslie/227700/24 "2004-02-10T19:48:41Z")
Can someone please enlighten me as to the irony in Sue Dunham? I don’t get that one. Stu Paddassel is one I think I get but I’m not sure… ---
**Author:** ![Ex\_Machina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-wordsmiths-parenthetical-you_and_me_and_leslie/227700/25 "2004-02-10T19:55:00Z")
> [@FilmGeek](#): > > Can someone please enlighten me as to the irony in Sue Dunham? I don’t get that one. Stu Paddassel is one I think I get but I’m not sure… I think the first is ‘pseudonym’ and the second is ‘stupid asshole.’ ---
**Author:** ![Genghis\_Bob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/45deac/32.png) [@Genghis\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genghis_Bob)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2004, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-wordsmiths-parenthetical-you_and_me_and_leslie/227700/26 "2004-02-10T20:13:02Z")
> [@ReBusEniGma](#): > > [disgression]. . . One of my all time favorite things to laugh at are misheard song _lyrics_. Perhaps one of the most misinterpreted songs is ‘Blinded by the Light’ by Manfred Man’s Earth Band. > [/digression] That’s **as sung by** Manfred Mann, 'cause everybody knows it was **written** by Bruce Springsteen, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-all-wordsmiths-parenthetical-you_and_me_and_leslie/227700.md?page=1)