# Calling people a liar in GD

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 1, 2006, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586 "2006-02-01T23:04:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/21 "2006-02-02T01:04:53Z")

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> [@Linty Fresh](#):
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> I finally wised up and tuned this joker out after he bragged about [encouraging suicide in people who want to kill themselves.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7037976&postcount=7) . Suddenly, there just didn’t seem to be any point in talking to him anymore.

To be fair, I don’t think **mswas** meant it that way.

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**Author:** ![yBeayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e274bd/32.png) [@yBeayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yBeayf)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/22 "2006-02-02T01:05:38Z")

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> [@Rysdad](#):
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> > [@mswas](#):
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> > ISo what I do when being called a “Liar” is I shut down to meaningful conversation with my accuser, because if they think that I am a liar then any attempt by me to clarify what I said can be met with more accusations that I am a liar, and they can say that I am just backing down on what I said, so why should I bother trying to clarify my position to someone who thinks I am a liar, because they want to believe that I meant something the way they interpreted it and any attempt to disabuse them of this notion will only be met with further accusations.
> 
> Ho. Lee. Fuck. I’ve rarely seen a more tortuous, convoluted sentence.

Heh. The sentence made perfect sense to me, and didn’t seen convoluted at all. :rubs eyes: I’ve been reading too many legal documents lately.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/23 "2006-02-02T01:08:58Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Yay, I’ve been Pitted! I’ve finally made it!  
> …snip…

Congrats FinnAgain, I’ll dedicate a Bass or two in your honor on Sunday.

\*\*mswas \*\*: You’re not having a good day. You [have accused a service member](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7054123&postcount=101) of being no [better than a terrorist](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7054260&postcount=114). You actually seceding in turning a thread where \*\*Clothahump \*\* was getting slammed into a pile on for you.

Now you pit \*\*FinnAgain \*\* for calling you out but don’t even point to the offending post.

Maybe you can try a little Brevity and see how that works out.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/24 "2006-02-02T01:20:21Z")

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**mswas** has a point. I’ve noticed lately that people have taken to saying, “You’re a liar” as meaning the same thing as, “you’re wrong”. i.e.:

“Bush signed that bill last April.”  
“You’re a liar! He signed it in May.”

That really is a coarsening of debate, and it makes it hard to have civil discussions.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/25 "2006-02-02T01:20:58Z")

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You people parse his posts enough to deduce what he means to the level where you can judge whether it is a lie or not? You’ve got way too much free time.

I didn’t consider anything he said in the post addressed to me a lie. Incomprehensible, yes, insulting yest (but I’m amused by that), lie no. I’m not saying it isn’t, I didn’t want to figure it out enough.

I haven’t been following the political threads, though. In any case, lying is the least of his problems.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/26 "2006-02-02T01:46:11Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> I didn’t consider anything he said in the post addressed to me a lie. Incomprehensible, yes, insulting yest (but I’m amused by that), lie no. I’m not saying it isn’t,

Well that is very agnostic of you. 🙂

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> I didn’t want to figure it out enough.

Me neither, but when I pointed that whopper to him later, he ignored it and only responded to another item that I also mentioned on one of my final replies.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/27 "2006-02-02T01:52:13Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I thought this board was about fighting ignorance. How do you propose to fight the ignorance of someone you have made too afraid to post by the constant abuse they see while lurking here?

Are you actually afraid to post? I see no evidence of it.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/28 "2006-02-02T01:52:52Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Yay, I’ve been Pitted! I’ve finally made it!

Dammit, I’ve been around since 2000 (see, up there to the right? two-effing-thousand) and no one has ever Pitted _me_. Where’s the love, people?

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/29 "2006-02-02T02:07:15Z")

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\*report the post to a mod and have them issue a warning.  
\*

nobody likes a snitch…

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**Author:** ![alaricthegoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@alaricthegoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alaricthegoth)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/30 "2006-02-02T02:08:17Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Dammit, I’ve been around since 2000 (see, up there to the right? two-effing-thousand) and no one has ever Pitted _me_. Where’s the love, people?

**I** have **three**

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/31 "2006-02-02T02:08:46Z")

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> [@Linty Fresh](#):
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> Ordinarily, I’d agree with you, Erek, but every post I’ve read of yours points to the fact that you’re a fucking nutjob, so to hell with it. I don’t care if they call you Glinda, the Good Witch of the North.
> 
> :wally

Bless you, LF. You brought me just the chuckle I needed.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/32 "2006-02-02T02:12:52Z")

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> [@alaricthegoth](#):
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> \*report the post to a mod and have them issue a warning.  
> \*
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> nobody likes a snitch…

Grow the fuck up-7th grade is over.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/33 "2006-02-02T02:14:24Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> But accusations of lying are really fucking irritating especially because the stakes are so fucking low.

In that case, the appropriate response to such accusations might be “Whatever.”

It’s not like everything is being published in Foreign Affairs, after all. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/34 "2006-02-02T02:14:40Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Well that is very agnostic of you. 🙂

I’m not an agnostic! I have no belief that **mswas** knows what he’s talking about. That a-erek-ism in my book. 🙂

Seriously, I took a dip in the political threads involving him and it was too weird.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/35 "2006-02-02T02:18:01Z")

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> [@alaricthegoth](#):
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> \*report the post to a mod and have them issue a warning.  
> \*
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> nobody likes a snitch…

> [@alaricthegoth](#):
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> **I** have **three**

Was any for coding?  
Everyone makes mistakes, but two straight? 😉

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/36 "2006-02-02T02:19:17Z")

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**mswas** has a point. I’ve noticed lately that people have taken to saying, “You’re a liar” as meaning the same thing as, “you’re wrong”. i.e.:

“Bush signed that bill last April.”  
“You’re a liar! He signed it in May.”

That really is a coarsening of debate, and it makes it hard to have civil discussions.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/37 "2006-02-02T02:24:00Z")

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Whoa, multipost that shows up nerly an hour later. Is that a record?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/38 "2006-02-02T02:25:23Z")

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“Nerly”? Jeeziz, I think I’m catching whatever **Aleric** ’s got.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/39 "2006-02-02T02:26:10Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Dammit, I’ve been around since 2000 (see, up there to the right? two-effing-thousand) and no one has ever Pitted _me_. Where’s the love, people?

Meh. I’ve been pitted twice by idiots who were banned soon afterward on the basis of cosmic stupidity. It ain’t all that great.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calling-people-a-liar-in-gd/342586/40 "2006-02-02T02:26:59Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> “Nerly”? Jeeziz, I think I’m catching whatever **Aleric** ’s got.

A head wound?

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