# Calliope

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [September 13, 2000, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020 "2000-09-13T13:05:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/1 "2000-09-13T13:05:33Z")

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This should be a quick one.

Calliope was a Greek goddess, I think. (Pardon me for not looking it up.) It’s also a musical instrument. I’ve always heard it pronounced “ca-LI-o-pee”. But there is a Calliope St. in New Orleans and the locals pronounce it “CALLY-ope”. Why is that?

(There’s also a street called Burgundy that they pronounce “bur-GUN-dee”. I assume the accent on the second syllable is from the French influence; but in that case, wouldn’t it be “bur-gun-DEE”?.)

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### Author: ![CandyMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@CandyMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandyMan)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/2 "2000-09-13T14:31:34Z")

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Think about the way they pronounce thier own city name. I wouldn’t use them as an example of how to pronounce anything.

CandyMan

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### Author: ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/3 "2000-09-13T15:17:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Johnny L.A. \*  
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> (There’s also a street called Burgundy that they pronounce “bur-GUN-dee”. I assume the accent on the second syllable is from the French influence; but in that case, wouldn’t it be “bur-gun-DEE”?.)  
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Hardly, it’s “Bourgogne” in French.

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### Author: ![Milton\_De\_La\_Warre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Milton\_De\_La\_Warre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milton_De_La_Warre)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/4 "2000-09-13T15:57:24Z")

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Calliope is the muse of music. There are other muses, but I reckon they are more like metahporical figures rather than goddesses per se.

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### Author: ![lucie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed8c4c/32.png) [@lucie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lucie)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/5 "2000-09-13T16:50:08Z")

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Actually, Calliope was the muse of epic poetry.

[http://www.eliki.com/portals/fantasy/circle/calliope.html](http://www.eliki.com/portals/fantasy/circle/calliope.html)

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### Author: ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/6 "2000-09-13T17:18:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Johnny L.A. \*  
> But there is a Calliope St. in New Orleans and the locals pronounce it “CALLY-ope”. Why is that?

That would be the french pronunciation of the word Calliope.

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### Author: ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/7 "2000-09-13T17:23:52Z")

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So if Calliope is the Muse of Epic Poetry, and Euterpe is the Muse of Music, how come the thing got called a Calliope instead of a Euterpe?

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### Author: ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/8 "2000-09-13T18:18:43Z")

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> So if Calliope is the Muse of Epic Poetry, and Euterpe is the Muse of Music, how come the thing got called a Calliope instead of a Euterpe?

WAG:

1 - J. C. Stoddard’s incomplete classical education? (J. C. Stoddard invented the damn thing).

2 - “Calliope” was more euphonious. Look, at least he didn’t call it a “terpsichore”.

BTW, the calliope qualifies as the loudest non-electronically amplified instrument ever invented. There are reports of them being heard at a range of 12 miles.

Stoddard:

[http://www.foxtail.com/Calliope/harmony.html](http://www.foxtail.com/Calliope/harmony.html)

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### Author: ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/9 "2000-09-13T18:38:30Z")

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Correction - Stoddard invented the steam version we are all familiar with. He could have taken the term “calliope” from an earlier air version, I suppose.

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### Author: ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/10 "2000-09-13T22:01:36Z")

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Probably the namer of the instrument was influenced by the literal translation of the name of the Greek muse: “Calliope” means “beautiful voice.” That the the instrument does not in fact have a beautiful voice is immaterial.

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### Author: ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2000, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/11 "2000-09-13T23:53:26Z")

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So how DO they pronounce New Orleans?  
Or-leens (english) or or-leh-ahns (french)?

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### Author: ![jcgmoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@jcgmoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jcgmoi)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2000, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/12 "2000-09-14T00:00:22Z")

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**LaurAnge** said: So how DO they pronounce New Orleans?

That would be “Nawlins”.

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### Author: ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2000, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/13 "2000-09-14T00:16:02Z")

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_shakes head_ Those wacky Americans…

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### Author: ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2000, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/calliope/33020/14 "2000-09-14T01:22:25Z")

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The pronounciation depends on where it’s located. The location of the calliope determined the pronounciation. A land based one, or a river boat one, each had a different pronounciation. I have to research, because I can’t remember which was which, and I don’t want to WAG.
