# Camel Toe? Cloven Hoof? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 17, 2000, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245 "2000-10-17T12:24:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/1 "2000-10-17T12:24:01Z")
OK. I still don’t get the reference in the ‘underwear is for suckers’ thread. What the heck is Camel Toe or Cloven Hoof? Someone draw me a diagram! ---
**Author:** ![Skelji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Skelji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skelji)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/2 "2000-10-17T12:50:06Z")
“Camel Toe” is slang for the bulge on those women who are especially, uh, endowed. It is particularly noticeable with tight pants. (Ever see the “Camel Toe Annie” skit on SNL?) Now, picture that, and picture a camel foot. See where it comes from? If you still need a diagram, I’m afraid you’re on your own there, JC. ---
**Author:** ![Commander\_Fortune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Commander\_Fortune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Commander_Fortune)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/3 "2000-10-17T13:02:10Z")
Noun. This is what you get when your jumpsuits are too tight in the crotch area. Usage: “Britnet, perhaps you shouldn’t wear those size-four catsuits. They give you camel toe.” [http://users3.50megs.com/paligap/Camel%20Toe%20blvd.htm](http://users3.50megs.com/paligap/Camel%20Toe%20blvd.htm) ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/4 "2000-10-17T13:04:38Z")
Good God, I’m hysterical at work. 🙂 My biker friend calls 'em “Helen Keller” pants. “Hey, I see Jackie has her Helen Keller pants on” wait for someone to ask what that means… “You can read her lips” (Yes, I know Helen Keller couldn’t read lips. He’s a big guy and I don’t really want to point this out. It’s still funny) Zette ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/5 "2000-10-17T13:23:14Z")
Ah. I guess when I was paying attention we used the ‘read her lips’ thing. ---
**Author:** ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/6 "2000-10-17T15:47:09Z")
i usually refer to it as smuggling a yoyo ---
**Author:** ![Chef\_Troy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Chef\_Troy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chef_Troy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/7 "2000-10-17T16:01:33Z")
Ye gods, I feel dirty all over after looking at that pic you provided, Commander. I need to find some camel toe pics of Susan Sarandon or Cher right away to counterbalance the awful Nabokovian reaction I just had. Or maybe I’ll just go look at it again, y’know, to make sure I’m really sufficiently ashamed of myself. (Britney must go through a lot of baby powder, dressing like that.) ---
**Author:** ![Chef\_Troy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Chef\_Troy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chef_Troy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/8 "2000-10-17T16:10:38Z")
Want to prevent the dreaded camel toe? Use its natural enemy, the [Rainbow Butterfly!](http://www.absurdgallery.com/creep.html) This howler of an ad is courtesy of [The Gallery of the Absurd,](http://www.absurdgallery.com) a collection of weird but true signs and advertisements that you have GOT to check out. ---
**Author:** ![struuter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@struuter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/struuter)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/9 "2000-10-17T16:12:29Z")
I’ve also heard it referred to as ‘the map of the mississippi.’ Yick. Some time after having explained this phenomenon to my older sister, we were walking through a really nice hotel in downtown Kansas City. Suddenly, my sister grabbed my arm, pointed to a somewhat pudgy woman poured into an expensive pant suit, and began shrieking, “Look! Camel foot! Camel foot!” I covered her mouth and quietly explained that it is camel ‘toe’ and that it is traditionally not the kind of thing one points out in such a dramatic and vocal manner. She still thought it was hilarious. And for the record, she was right about the woman. Boy, did she look uncomfortable. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/10 "2000-10-17T16:15:13Z")
I’ve also heard the term “moose knuckle”. ---
**Author:** ![Dragwyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dragwyr/32/2855_2.png) [@Dragwyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragwyr)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/11 "2000-10-17T18:54:45Z")
Here is another link showing Bitney Spears with Camel Toe: [http://www.britney-spears-portal.com/Anti-Britney/cameltoe.html](http://www.britney-spears-portal.com/Anti-Britney/cameltoe.html) [Runs for cover] ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/12 "2000-10-17T19:56:34Z")
“Camel-Toe Annie” is a Conan O’Brien creation, not SNL. ---
**Author:** ![DAVEW0071](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@DAVEW0071](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DAVEW0071)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/13 "2000-10-17T20:07:48Z")
**Chef Troy** , thanks for the link for the Rainbow Butterfly. What a bizarre item! It looks like a feminine athletic cup. And it looks about as comfortable as one, as well. How bout it, ladies? Wanna wear one of _those_ all day? ---
**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/14 "2000-10-17T20:25:11Z")
Only thing worse than a woman with camel-toe… a man with camel-toe. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/15 "2000-10-17T21:08:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chef Troy \* > \*\*Want to prevent the dreaded camel toe? Use its natural enemy, the [Rainbow Butterfly!](http://www.absurdgallery.com/creep.html) > \*\* I saw a very similar item at an adult store only it was called “the Hummingbird” and required 4 AAA batteries. I must say I was intrigued. ---
**Author:** ![Kyberneticist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kyberneticist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyberneticist)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/16 "2000-10-17T21:37:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zette \* > \*\*Good God, I’m hysterical at work. 🙂 > > My biker friend calls 'em “Helen Keller” pants. > > “Hey, I see Jackie has her Helen Keller pants on” > wait for someone to ask what that means… > “You can read her lips” > > (Yes, I know Helen Keller couldn’t read lips. He’s a big guy and I don’t really want to point this out. It’s still funny) > > Zette \*\* Actually Helen Keller did read lips. She used her fingers. ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2000, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/17 "2000-10-17T23:00:35Z")
Used… …her …fingers… BWAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2000, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/18 "2000-10-18T05:48:02Z")
There’s a craps dealer at the Aladdin that I want to send one of these Rainbow Butterfly things to. ---
**Author:** ![Danielinthewolvesden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Danielinthewolvesden](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danielinthewolvesden)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2000, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/19 "2000-10-18T05:58:39Z")
And spoil our fun? Shame on you, have you no respect for us dirty old men? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DRY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DRY](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DRY)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2000, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245/20 "2000-10-18T06:25:34Z")
“Teach not thy lip such scorn, for it was made For kissing, lady, not for such contempt.” –Richard III, Act 1, Scene ii [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camel-toe-cloven-hoof/37245.md?page=2)