# Camera in my Airbnb

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camera-in-my-airbnb/822626>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 7, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camera-in-my-airbnb/822626 "2018-10-07T23:10:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camera-in-my-airbnb/822626/21 "2018-10-09T00:34:28Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> No, pictures of children in a sexual situation is a crime. Now, nudity and sexual situations have a large degree of overlap, but you can have either one without the other.

Having a camera in a place where it could be reasonably expected to have a naked child in a private rental unit seems to cross that line. The surveillance for thief aspect doesn’t seem to be justification for this, and quite frankly sounds more like a excuse to gather nude photos and video (not necessarily kids photos, but nude photos).

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camera-in-my-airbnb/822626/22 "2018-10-09T01:46:50Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Having a camera in a place where it could be reasonably expected to have a naked child in a private rental unit seems to cross that line. The surveillance for thief aspect doesn’t seem to be justification for this, and quite frankly sounds more like a excuse to gather nude photos and video (not necessarily kids photos, but nude photos).

The camera was mentioned in the contract, wasn’t hidden on the wall, and was in the living room, not a bedroom or bathroom.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camera-in-my-airbnb/822626/23 "2018-10-09T01:52:56Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> The camera was mentioned in the contract, wasn’t hidden on the wall, and was in the living room, not a bedroom or bathroom.

And in a are where kids can be expected to be disrobed. Don’t think you can sign that away.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camera-in-my-airbnb/822626/24 "2018-10-09T13:13:53Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> I’d rather see the disclosure “WE HAVE A CAMERA. We’ll view the video if something is missing” versus what you got “If something is missing, we’ll view the video. Implication - there is a camera.”  
> Where was this in the rules anyway? Very visible, or buried in the middle?

It was in the middle (not like its own section or anything), but that said, it’s not like an itunes agreement or anything, so a reasonable reading of it would have pulled it out. I just had never thought to look for this.

> [@Chronos](#):
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> No, pictures of children in a sexual situation is a crime. Now, nudity and sexual situations have a large degree of overlap, but you can have either one without the other.

Which I assure is the category this fell into!

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> The camera was mentioned in the contract, wasn’t hidden on the wall, and was in the living room, not a bedroom or bathroom.

Living room but pointed toward the bathroom; not that this was nefarious, just that it was the place to point the camera that would cover most of the room. But the bathroom is the size of a postage stamp, and not attached to a bedroom. So, anyone with little kids will tell you there is precisely zero chance that after bath time they are not going to parade naked into the bedroom.

I ended up not saying anything. They reviewed me well on the site, so I assume I gave them no reason to review the footage. But, frankly, it is a little concerning because I have no way of knowing that, and I know for a fact now that there is footage of my kids that at least did exist. I have to trust people I never met to do what they said that they would do.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/camera-in-my-airbnb/822626/25 "2018-10-09T14:08:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I have to trust people I never met to do what they said that they would do.

Or express your concerns to airbnb.

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