The first is filled with sawdust or something. That gets tossed in the air. There’s a puff of stuff coming out.
When the box impacts, it’s in fairly good shape, and the ground is clean. The somemore stuff comes out. I first thought that the box was opening, but it looks like it’s just “stuff” spilling. Which makes a nice pile. Seen more clearly here.
When our blond plant runs up, the box is 90 deg off, as can be seen between the third and forth photos. This box contains the pizza with the hole.
My question would be, where would a baseball thrown at 80+mph with an upward trajectory land if he misses his target? I’m thinking it lands in the middle of Bay St and causes a car accident.
I also intended to muse about the mysterious pile of stuff that came out of the pizza box when it landed, while the pizza box they opened had no powdery stuff inside.
Fake. Each item was rigged to explode, and they swapped out pizza boxes while the camera was turned away.
I think they only had two boxes, however, the one the girl held up and the one they finally opened are the same, despite the edit cut.
I’m in the “fake” camp, but you are correct here, as I see it. The top left corner of that frame is the outside of the box (or, rather, the outside of the flap that slots into the box), and that seems pretty clear to me when you watch the video.
However, that corner is pretty sauced-up and tattered. When you see the cut-away to the next angle, the box looks completely fresh and brand-new, with no dimples, dents, or anything. It’s definitely a different box.
Check out the images at 1:17 versus 1:21.
In the the first there is a huge blob of sauce on the front left of the inside box . It’s gone at 1:21. There are other missing dribbles of sauce. The latter pizza also looks cleaner with different markings, and the top stains look different. (The markings could have changed if Tory had re-closed the box, but really the whole box/pizza looks neater and cleaner.)
Great job TokyoBayer. (A picture with arrows is worth a thousand purely text messages.)
It’s strange what pinged wrong for various posters. I still have no trouble with the acting. The kids backing up when the soda bottle explodes looks legit to me. Kari and Tory’s reactions are always cartoonish (which makes me prefer Adam and Jamie’s segments on the show) and didn’t seem different than usual.
I’ll be interested in finding out which impacts were honest (if any.)
It is really strange that they’d have two hole-ified pizzas, but the pictures do seem to show this to be the case. And I think it’s plausible that the thrown box had sawdust inside instead of a pizza. So… Myth Busted I guess? Though it doesn’t detract from the claim that whatsisface could hit the box and make a hole in it…
I believe you have unquestionably solved this - nice job. I wonder if anyone will try to argue that he really did do it multiple times and they simply edited together the best footage from each take. That kind of tortured reasoning is about the only thing left at this point. And since they faked the pizza box…
I was thinking the same thing just from watching the video, wondering what was behind the backstop that he clearly would have thrown over if he had missed. Now that I’ve looked at the google aerial view I agree with you and can’t imagine they would have had him throwing a ball in that direction.
I’m not sure what you are saying here: You seem to agree that there’s a noticeable lag in the most recent little league video I posted.
Let me ask you this: On the test video I posted, do you agree that it’s possible to discern where the horizontal bar is to within +/- 1 tick when the sound comes?
Looking at the shots in context, it doesn’t seem clear that what’s going on is “fakery” so much as simple mutliple takes with multiple props. Maybe he hit three boxes and not just one.
Even if he hits the target, the baseball ought to keep going pretty fast. It’s been a while since I studied physics, but if the pizza box just keeps going up and down; and there aren’t big pieces of pizza or cardboard moving in the same direction as the ball, then the ball ought to continue moving at roughly the same speed and direction as if he’d missed the box.
I’m going to take a closer look at TokyoBayer’s pic and comment on it later, but I just wanted to chime in and say that I broke down and emailed Tory directly for an answer. We’ll see if he responds or not.
Yeah, that bothered me as well. Here’s a better link to the Moscone recreation center. I’m not sure how accurate measurements are when taken on a screen with a ruler, but it looks like the distance to the back of the bleachers was close to 250 feet.
I can’t do the math, but that’s like throwing from middle outfield and much further than throwing from deep, deep short to first base. That doesn’t factor in the height of the bleachers. Also Cain’s higher throws didn’t seem to be at the ideal angle for maximum distance (outfielders seem to put a lower trajectory on the ball when shooting for home.)
Maybe it wasn’t as dangerous as it looked. Don’t know. We don’t know the pitch velocity for one thing.
I just looked again, and am revising my estimate. It could be as low as 200’. On the satellite image the distance from home to first is only about 3/4 the distance of home to third, so the angle is deceptive.
On a full size diamond, the distance from home to second is about 127 feet, and in the picture the distance from the top of the dirt circle to the back of the bleachers is much less than twice that.
You can see the ball for a few frames after impact, but then fades into the sky. The video isn’t clear enough to see exactly where it does. The path is interesting. The path of the ball seems to be higher than his hand, but it’s hard to be certain as the substitution of boxes
There’s nothing in the video which rules out having a pitching machine just to the right of Matt. He obviously isn’t taking anything like a major league wind up, and his right hand isn’t shown after he “throws” the ball until after the cut and the new box.
I’m doing this for the others.