# Can Al Franken change his mind and stay? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 17, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738 "2017-12-17T22:56:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/121 "2017-12-20T23:50:23Z")
Congress has nullified one state election already. I’d hope they’d know better then overrule the voters again. There will be ample opportunity to discuss Franken’s misdeeds if he runs again. The people in his state should decide if they want him as their Senator. That said. It seems unlikely Franken would run against the Democrat that replaces him. He’d have no support at all. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/122 "2017-12-20T23:55:34Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > This question was asked on page one of the thread and, > so far as I can recall, not answered, so I thought I’d revive it: > > How about the rest of the jury? What if he ran again and won? If he was able to demonstrate true contrition (and I would let others, mostly women, be the judge of that), then perhaps. But, IMO, that would be incredibly unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/123 "2017-12-21T00:08:59Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > something the whisper network has known for years… Cite? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/124 "2017-12-21T00:09:45Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > This question was asked on page one of the thread and, > so far as I can recall, not answered, so I thought I’d revive it: > > How about the rest of the jury? What if he ran again and won? Are you reviving the question as it was asked or asking us what we personally would think? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/125 "2017-12-21T04:22:27Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If he was able to demonstrate true contrition (and I would let others, mostly women, be the judge of that), then perhaps. But, IMO, that would be incredibly unlikely. How would that work? A commission? What would be ratio of male to female commissioners? Who would appoint them? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/126 "2017-12-21T04:23:51Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Are you reviving the question as it was asked or asking us what we personally would think? By leaving that question unanswered, the question stays as a Rorschach test sort of of query. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/127 "2017-12-21T09:48:04Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > How would that work? A commission? What would be ratio of male to female commissioners? Who would appoint them? Huh? I’m not suggesting any official process, just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/128 "2017-12-21T15:30:02Z")
Al Franken announced his last day as Senator will be January 2nd. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/129 "2017-12-21T20:15:03Z")
From his website regarding [a speech delivered today (12-21-17):](https://www.franken.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=3811) > [@](#): > > M.PRESIDENT, this is my final speech on the floor of the United States Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/130 "2017-12-21T21:22:59Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > From his website regarding [a speech delivered today (12-21-17):](https://www.franken.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=3811) From the article: \*"Franken ran through a litany of policies - including the newly passed tax bill, ObamaCare and climate change - where he said the Trump administration’s positions are at odds with what’s best for most Americans. … He questioned whether senators were “losing the war on truth.” “Who will stand up and fight for more honest debate? … I hope that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle will stand up for truth,” he said."\* Could have been you if you’d have kept your hands to yourself. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/131 "2017-12-22T03:51:51Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > From the article: > > \*"Franken ran through a litany of policies - including the newly passed tax bill, ObamaCare and climate change - where he said the Trump administration’s positions are at odds with what’s best for most Americans. > > … > > He questioned whether senators were “losing the war on truth.” > “Who will stand up and fight for more honest debate? … I hope that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle will stand up for truth,” he said."\* > > Could have been you if you’d have kept your hands to yourself. :rolleyes: After reading through the speech I can be sure your quotes nor your comment got the point. Nice dig though!!! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/132 "2017-12-22T09:05:05Z")
Nothing says liberal hero like an NSA bootlicker and Iraq War booster. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/133 "2017-12-22T12:31:05Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I expected Al to get a sanction of some kind. > > I never expected them to force him to resign. That’s pretty extreme punishment for what he did. I’m not sure I’d call the voluntary retirement of a 66-year-old man “extreme punishment”. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/134 "2017-12-22T14:36:22Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Cite? #2 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/135 "2017-12-22T15:27:38Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Nothing says liberal hero like an NSA bootlicker and Iraq War booster. _Wut?_ ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/136 "2017-12-23T01:01:28Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > something the whisper network has known for years > [@Sherrerd](#): > > Cite? > [@Dangerosa](#): > > #2 Post 2 in this thread? That, in its entirety, is: > [@](#): > > Larry “wide stance” Craig decided not to resign after he said he would and just didn’t run for re-election. > So I don’t think his comments are binding. He just looks like a jerk if he does it. ??? ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/137 "2017-12-23T03:51:48Z")
Franken got run out of the Senate due to 30-second attention span and the calculation that Moore would win. They would have rather had Franken out of the picture and feasted on Moore. No such luck. Good luck Dems. You are fucked by your own devices. I’m a life-long liberal and spent a lot of time and dough backing up equal protection, but now I’m sick of your whining and mush-brained thinking. I’m fixing to retire to a nice quiet place where I can sit on my porch with a quart of Jack Daniels and a shotgun and wait for one of you fags to show up. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/138 "2017-12-23T04:11:42Z")
> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#): > > I’m fixing to retire to a nice quiet place where I can sit on my porch with a quart of Jack Daniels and a shotgun and wait for one of you fags to show up. This is warning for hate speech. This is not allowed in any forum on this message board. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/139 "2017-12-23T04:21:30Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > This is warning for hate speech. This is not allowed in any forum on this message board. > > [/moderating] Fuck you. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2017, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-al-franken-change-his-mind-and-stay/804738/140 "2017-12-23T04:25:38Z")
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