# Can an Uber driver see the passenger's rating of the driver before rating the passenger?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 15, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035 "2016-03-15T02:08:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/1 "2016-03-15T02:08:28Z")

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A friend of mine wants to give her recent uber driver the lowest possible rating, but is hesitant to do so because she fears he will, in retaliation, give her a low rating as well.

Does the system Uber uses allow for this kind of retaliatory rating?

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**Author:** ![StanielMarsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@StanielMarsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StanielMarsh)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/2 "2016-03-15T02:45:16Z")

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Tell that bitch to just let it go.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/3 "2016-03-15T03:00:20Z")

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> [@StanielMarsh](#):
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> Tell that bitch to just let it go.

Hi, I don’t think we’ve met! Where you from? How’s the weather?

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/4 "2016-03-15T03:51:38Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> A friend of mine wants to give her recent uber driver the lowest possible rating, but is hesitant to do so because she fears he will, in retaliation, give her a low rating as well.
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> Does the system Uber uses allow for this kind of retaliatory rating?

No.

Also, 90% of drivers don’t give a crap what her rating is.

Also, 90% of drivers don’t give a crap what \*their \*rating is.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/5 "2016-03-15T14:43:36Z")

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Sorry, this was supposed to be in General Questions.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/6 "2016-03-15T14:46:18Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> No.
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> Also, 90% of drivers don’t give a crap what her rating is.
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> Also, 90% of drivers don’t give a crap what \*their \*rating is.

I was under the impression Uber drivers would be terminated if their average rating fell below a certain point.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/7 "2016-03-15T15:01:07Z")

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Moved per request.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/8 "2016-03-15T15:24:30Z")

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Is posting a rating an absolute requirement?

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/9 "2016-03-15T15:36:31Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Is posting a rating an absolute requirement?

No, but she felt what he did was bad enough to warrant the action. (Basically, he took her in for $20, “accidentally” turning a 1/2 mile drive into a several mile drive by “accidentally” taking several wrong turns.)

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/10 "2016-03-15T17:15:41Z")

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> [@StanielMarsh](#):
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> Tell that bitch to just let it go.

> [@Frylock](#):
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> Sorry, this was supposed to be in General Questions.

**Moderating**

This is just to note that this thread was moved to General Questions from another forum. The post by **StanielMarsh** would not have been appropriate had the thread been in GQ from the start. (I doubt if it would have been useful in its original forum either.)

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/11 "2016-03-15T17:54:30Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Is posting a rating an absolute requirement?

IIRC, a rider can’t request a new ride until they review the previous driver.

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**Author:** ![Pasta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@Pasta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pasta)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/12 "2016-03-15T18:55:48Z")

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When I looked into this a while back (a year?), I learned that the drivers receive a summary of ratings on a weekly basis and that they cannot tell who gave which rating.

I know we have some drivers on board, though, who can confirm.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/13 "2016-03-15T19:35:53Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> IIRC, a rider can’t request a new ride until they review the previous driver.

I’ve taken Uber several times and never reviewed a driver to my knowledge. I just opened the app now (I took a ride last week) and I don’t see anything stopping me from ordering a ride.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/14 "2016-03-15T20:27:20Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I’ve taken Uber several times and never reviewed a driver to my knowledge. I just opened the app now (I took a ride last week) and I don’t see anything stopping me from ordering a ride.

Right, it will harass you a bit to review the driver, but you can bypass it.

Evidently in Uber’s early days, a driver could immediately see a passenger’s rating for them, but not any more. According to [the Quora answers here](https://www.quora.com/How-can-an-Uber-driver-see-what-rating-the-client-gave-to-the-driver), all the drivers can see are the average ratings over various time ranges. Drivers can kind of game it by looking after the first ride of the day or calculating the rise/drop in the average after a ride. But otherwise, they can’t link a specific rating to a rider. Just wait a few hours after the ride to rate them, and you’re fine.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/15 "2016-03-15T20:48:47Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Right, it will harass you a bit to review the driver, but you can bypass it.
> 
> Evidently in Uber’s early days, a driver could immediately see a passenger’s rating for them, but not any more. According to [the Quora answers here](https://www.quora.com/How-can-an-Uber-driver-see-what-rating-the-client-gave-to-the-driver), all the drivers can see are the average ratings over various time ranges. Drivers can kind of game it by looking after the first ride of the day or calculating the rise/drop in the average after a ride. But otherwise, they can’t link a specific rating to a rider. Just wait a few hours after the ride to rate them, and you’re fine.

Yah, the only thing I see is in my email receipt, where on the very bottom, there’s a small area where I can rate my driver. And that’s the only mention I see of ratings. The app itself hasn’t nagged me. Maybe I don’t use it often enough and it just expires. No push notifications or anything like that, either.

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**Author:** ![Draconis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c68b51/32.png) [@Draconis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draconis)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/16 "2016-03-16T19:54:07Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> No, but she felt what he did was bad enough to warrant the action. (Basically, he took her in for $20, “accidentally” turning a 1/2 mile drive into a several mile drive by “accidentally” taking several wrong turns.)

Your friend should complain instead of worrying about rating the driver. Uber keep a GPS record of each journey. If it confirms what you say they will very likely refund her.

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**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/17 "2016-03-16T20:20:31Z")

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> [@Draconis](#):
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> Your friend should complain instead of worrying about rating the driver. Uber keep a GPS record of each journey. If it confirms what you say they will very likely refund her.

I’m pretty sure the route is shown in the email receipt.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-an-uber-driver-see-the-passengers-rating-of-the-driver-before-rating-the-passenger/749035/18 "2016-03-18T00:45:49Z")

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No, the driver can’t see what rating any particular rider gave. No, the rider doesn’t have to rate the driver at all – however, if there’s no rating, it counts as a 5.

The driver, however DOES have to rate the passenger. We can’t go onto another drive until we do.
