# Can anybody reach 0-16 this year? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 1, 2001, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817 "2001-10-01T19:49:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/21 "2001-10-09T14:19:43Z")
THe Cowgirls and the Lions are my odds on favorites this year. I woulda said Arizona but they went and ruined a possible perfect season. ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/22 "2001-10-09T14:53:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Omniscient \* > \*\* > Note that last game, and also games against Cincy and Arizona. Not to mention the Norris is notorious for upsets in divisional rivalries. > \*\* Norris? They only play like they’re on ice… The Cowboys may win a couple. They play the Skinneds twice. ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/23 "2001-10-09T15:57:18Z")
Have any of you that are talking trash about the Cowboys even watched one of their games? The Eagles spanked them, that’s true. However, except for a handful of plays, the Cowboys could be 3-1 or 2-2, in spite of Jerry Jones sticking us with a running back at QB. Fortunately, Carter seems to be injury prone, which means that Anthony Wright, who actually CAN throw the ball, has been playing. He almost beat the Raiders, that’s for damn sure. Like I said, 5 or 6 plays have made the difference for the Cowboys. Can you say the same for the Deadskins or the Lions? BTW, the 'boys not only get to play Arizona and Washington twice, they also get to play Detroit. 5-11! Woohoo! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/24 "2001-10-09T19:34:09Z")
I haven’t been talking trash about the Cowboys, even though I haven’t seen them. I’ve been reading the box scores, though, and their stats are merely not very good, as opposed to the sheer awfulness of the Redskins’ numbers. (Which merely reflects their awfulness on the field.) A week from now, only one of these two teams will be winless. My money continues to be on the Redskins to remain 0-fer, if anyone’s interested. 🙂 Of course, there are three other winless teams. Got to admit, the Lions are pretty wretched, and could give the Deadskins a run for it. ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/25 "2001-10-09T23:41:19Z")
Has everybody forgotten this same Lions team was 9-7 last year, and, if not for the last-game, last-quarter implosion against the Bears, would have made the playoffs for the second straight year? I guess Matt Millen and Marty Morninghweg are taking the “tear it all down to build it back up again” approach. Only problem is, the personnel is virtually the same. They pull Charlie Batch after one game, because Morning-wood “expects more out of the quarterback position in this offense.” He puts in Ty Detmer, who throws **7 interceptions in one game** , and keeps him as the starter the next week! Then we all saw the Marty-go-round in the Monday night debacle against the Rams. Guess Batch is “good enough” again. (Did you notice how brain-dead and uninspired the Rams were playing? I think about 20 NFL teams would have beat them Monday. And the Lions _still_ lost 35-0 to them.). The week before, they became only the second team in NFL history to have 7+ turnovers and 15+ penalties in the same game. Yeah! The Lions rule the NFL in something! The Lions seem to me to be the least prepared, least inspired, least innovative, sloppiest team in the NFL. I think Millen made a huge mistake with his coaching choice. I look at that schedule, and I don’t see who they are going to beat. Only the Lions could go 0-16 and not get the first pick in the following year’s NFL draft. Only the Lions. Barry, I’m beggin’ ya. Please. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/26 "2001-10-16T14:37:32Z")
Each week another team stubles on to the quest of greatness. This week Dallas did all it could to prevent a win but in the end they remained victorious. AFC: Buffalo NFC: Detroit, Washington My new favorite front runner, Washington. Their ineptitude was anguishing and heroic. Rarely have I seen a team perform without any idea what to do. The coaching staff doesn’t seem to realize they have Stephen Davis and Michael Westbrook. While they are good (not great players), the rarely seem to get the ball. I don’t know Buffalo well enough to pass judgement but I can’t see them going 0-16. The Lions suprised me with their offense scoring three touchdowns on Sunday. I know it was against Minnesota but still that’s more points than Dallas and Washington last night combined. If Detroits secondary ever heals, they could win a game. Especially with Arizona, Dallas, and Pittsburgh on the schedule near the end of the year. Though I have a sinking feeling when Dallas heads out to the District of Columbia that the Redskins will be victorious. There might be no team this year that will accomplish the infamous goal. What a shame. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/27 "2001-10-16T17:16:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wolverine \* > My new favorite front runner, Washington. Their ineptitude was anguishing and heroic. Rarely have I seen a team perform without any idea what to do. The coaching staff doesn’t seem to realize they have Stephen Davis and Michael Westbrook. While they are good (not great players), the rarely seem to get the ball. Somebody must’ve finally proven the Stephen Davis Existence Theorem to Schottenheimer’s satisfaction, because Davis got 23 carries last night (as opposed to 12 last week against the Giants). But the MNF crew was wondering aloud - frequently and loudly - about Westbrook’s virtual disappearance from the Redskins offense. (OK, he got the sole TD catch, but did Banks even throw in his general neighborhood the rest of the night? If he did, I missed it. It seems that if you’re in Marty’s doghouse, he won’t use you, even if he’s forced to start you. That strikes me as a singularly dumb approach - the equivalent of “sure, I know their defense is going to play 11 guys, but I’ll use just 10 on offense, because I’m pissed at Westbrook.” I know (or assume, anyway) that Marty wants to trade Westbrook, but not only is Marty not going to win like that, but also Westbrook’s trade value will be hurt. > [@](#): > > The Lions suprised me with their offense scoring three touchdowns on Sunday. I know it was against Minnesota but still that’s more points than Dallas and Washington last night combined. The Lions scored more points in that game than the Redskins scored in their first four games; they scored more TDs in that one fifteen-minute stretch than the Redskins have scored in all five games. That doesn’t mean the Lions are any good; I really do believe they’re a pretty bad team. But it sure gives a sense of the Redskins’ level of futility, doesn’t it? > [@](#): > > Though I have a sinking feeling when Dallas heads out to the District of Columbia that the Redskins will be victorious. The game to _really_ worry about is the game that was postponed from 9/16 to 1/6: the home game against the Arizona Cardinals. Not only are they one of the worst teams that _has_ won a game, but you gotta figure that the warm-weather Birds will have far more problems with the chill of a D.C. January than the Redskins will. If that game had been played as originally scheduled, it would have made the prospect of 0-16 almost plausible. But the 'Skins could go winless in 2001, yet win a game in the 2001 _season_. ---
**Author:** ![GreatKingRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@GreatKingRat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreatKingRat)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2001, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/28 "2001-10-21T22:02:55Z")
GO LIONS!!! and take the tigers with you. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2001, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/29 "2001-10-21T22:09:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > If that game had been played as originally scheduled, it would have made the prospect of 0-16 almost plausible. But the 'Skins could go winless in 2001, yet win a game in the 2001 _season_. [Not anymore, bayby!](http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=211021028) ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/30 "2001-10-22T20:27:17Z")
Detroit Lions They are the sole winless team left. And to tell you the truth, they seem a little shaky to go 0-16. Not that I don’t have great confidence that they will only win 1 or 2 games the entire season but winless just seems to be to big an accomplishment. Especially when the offense has over three hundred yards passing and three touchdowns in each of the past two games. Going into the season I thought the defense would be mediocre to good and the offense pitiful. Now, the offense is what’s keeping them in the games and nothing is what it seems. I’ll be faithful each week to either rejoice in another loss or to put to death this thread which shows how miserable some teams are. ---
**Author:** ![NothingMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b77776/32.png) [@NothingMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NothingMan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/31 "2001-10-22T22:30:16Z")
Actually losing Crowell for the season may help Detroits attempt at the goose egg. Now here’s a question for you . . . at what point does a coach say “ah screw it” and just decide to try for that #1 pick ? Just kidding of course. Actually with the expansion draft next year, the worst team from this year won’t even get the dignity of having the first pick. Its a bad bad season to be flirting with winlessness. My pick ? Detroit still finishes with 2 wins and the Redskins don’t win another game. ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2001, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/32 "2001-10-22T22:38:32Z")
Leave it to the Foreskins to screw up their one chance at NFL immortality. They alone were bad enough to make a run at it. Inept offense, defense, special teams, and coaching. Sadly, I see the Lions winning at least one game this year. I fear the winless season will not be attained ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2001, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/33 "2001-10-29T14:38:17Z")
The best thing that happened this week was that Detroit had a blackout of the Lions game. They were spared the humiliation of watching their team reach 0-6. However, the Lions are on the road next week at San Fransisco. Not only will there be a loss for 0-7, Detroit fans will be able to watch it on TV. Oh well, it’s just a waiting game now. #2 pick here we come. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/34 "2001-11-05T21:26:34Z")
Another week, another loss. The Lions are looking more like perfection each week. There are only four games that scare me. At Arizona, Green Bay on Thanksgiving Day, Minnesota at home, and Dallas at home. Tampa Bay could always choke against the Lions and lose but I don’t see it happening. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/35 "2001-11-05T22:36:20Z")
The Lions are almost starting to make a believer out of me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/36 "2001-11-12T15:08:17Z")
Nothing new this week. Lions lose in typical style. Always near the end of the game when either the offense needs to score a thouchdown and fails, or in this game the defense needs to hold and allows the opponent to score. Only halfway there at 0-8, still a long road to go. ---
**Author:** ![JuanDeCuba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@JuanDeCuba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JuanDeCuba)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2001, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/37 "2001-11-12T18:33:14Z")
Do college teams count? I think my school could make it if the NCAA lets us schedule another 5 games ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2001, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/38 "2001-11-19T05:28:30Z")
Hope is still alive. I was wondering about how Detroit would do against the hapless Arizona Cardinal’s but in the end I had nothing to worry about. After a great defensive battle, 38-45, Arizona came out on top. 0-9 with seven games left. ---
**Author:** ![KimKatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ac91a4/32.png) [@KimKatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KimKatt)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2001, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/39 "2001-11-19T14:45:11Z")
Knock, knock. Who’s there? Owen. Owen who? 0 and 9. The most popular joke in Detroit today. \… ---
**Author:** ![Kamikazee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Kamikazee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamikazee)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2001, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/40 "2001-11-19T15:39:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wolverine \* > \*\*Hope is still alive. I was wondering about how Detroit would do against the hapless Arizona Cardinal’s but in the end I had nothing to worry about. After a great defensive battle, 38-45, Arizona came out on top. > > 0-9 with seven games left. \*\* If you give a monkey a typewriter he / it will eventually spell a real word. In the same fashion the Lions will no doubt win a game this year, but they will probably be just as amazed / oblivious as the monkey on the typewriter. Gotta love the underdog.😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817.md?page=3)