# Can anybody reach 0-16 this year? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 1, 2001, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817 "2001-10-01T19:49:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jet\_Jaguar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jet_jaguar/32/3562_2.png) [@Jet\_Jaguar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jet_Jaguar)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/41 "2001-11-21T01:55:15Z")
If there’s one thing I’ve learned growing up in Detroit it’s that the Lions are the most consistently disappointing team in the NFL. Therefore, there’s no chance they’d go 0-16. They will somehow manage to screw up their perfect record with a win. ---
**Author:** ![broccoli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@broccoli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/broccoli)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/42 "2001-11-21T18:55:39Z")
[hijak] Woahwoahwoahwoahwoah, slow down there, **Jet Jaguar**. If there’s any pro team that has consistantly dissapointed their fans it’s the Cleveland Browns. I should know, they’re my team. In fact, they’ve been bad so long that it’s kind of dissappionting to be seeing them win. We LIKE seeing Cleveland struggling. It’s what they’re there for. Although I do have to give them props for luring Butch Davis away (Miami is my college team, Go 'Canes!). [/hijak] and yeah, for being the in NFC Central Detroit really blows. Isn’t this the black-and-blue division? I thought you were only as good as the teams you play? If this was the case, Detroit should be at least at .500. hrm Oh well, I hope they go all the way to bagel and 16 🙂 They’ll get some nice draft picks then. Unlike the BUCS who have nine damn pro bowlers on their team and are 4-5. :rolleyes: Sad, sad, sad. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/43 "2001-11-21T20:51:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jet Jaguar \* > \*\*If there’s one thing I’ve learned growing up in Detroit it’s that the Lions are the most consistently disappointing team in the NFL. Therefore, there’s no chance they’d go 0-16. They will somehow manage to screw up their perfect record with a win. \*\* **Jet** is right. I also live near Detroit and agree. They will let us all down, but probably won’t go 1-15 because then we could at least say they tied the worst record. They will go 2-14 and be totally forgotten and irrelevant. After they went 0-6, I’ve been hoping beyond hope to see them go all the way to 0-16. ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/44 "2001-11-21T22:03:25Z")
I don’t think you are appropriately in awe of a team that will lose within 7 points of whatever type of game the opponent wants to play. Only scoring 20? We’ll score 17. Scoring 45? We’ll score 38. I can easily envision a showdown on the last week of the season, the makeup game at home against the Cowboys, with an 0-15 Lions team. Watch them ruin it in that game. Maybe the fans will tear down the goalposts. ---
**Author:** ![Ennui](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ennui/32/3396_2.png) [@Ennui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ennui)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/45 "2001-11-21T22:58:19Z")
broccoli!??? Through the 99 season, and includeing AAFC records which the NFL considers official, the Browns have the best lifetime winning percentage in the leauge. But as to the 0 and 16 thing, the Ravens could have done it, if they would have played 16 games against Cleveland. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2001, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/46 "2001-11-21T23:25:01Z")
I wonder if the NFL will seriously consider changing the Thanksgiving tradition and have some other teams besides Dallas and Detroit play. Most of the time, Detroit and Dallas have provided some memorable games, but I just don’t see it happening this time. OTOH, the Detroit game has a long, long [history](http://www.profootballhof.com/history/1930s/thanksgiving.cfm) and the league will probably just grit its teeth and hope for the future. ---
**Author:** ![broccoli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@broccoli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/broccoli)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2001, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/47 "2001-11-22T00:23:25Z")
**Ennui** That’s my point. They’re one of the oldest teams around if you ignore that Baltimore/moving/“i’m-going-to-kill-Art-in-a-dark-alleyway” crap. and how many super bowl rings do they have? Zero. Cleveland has _one_ championship from before the NFL. Actually come to think of it Ohio has 4 of the 13 championships before the NFL was around, and the first one ever was the **Akron Pros** (my home city! Go Akron!). I digress. My whole point is, with a city so rich in football history you’d think they could DO something. Well, maybe this year. (The official sports motto of all Clevelands pro sports teams) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![broccoli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@broccoli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/broccoli)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2001, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/48 "2001-11-22T00:37:56Z")
oh yeah, and a worse hijak than my earlier one… (sorry **Wolverine** ) Fact: **1899** Chris O’Brien formed a neighborhood team, which played under the name the Morgan Athletic Club, on the south side of Chicago. The team later became known as the Normals, then the Racine (for a street in Chicago) Cardinals, the Chicago Cardinals, the St. Louis Cardinals, the Phoenix Cardinals, and, in 1994, the Arizona Cardinals. The team remains the oldest continuing operation in pro football. Yeah they suck, but what a history. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![broccoli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@broccoli](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/broccoli)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2001, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/49 "2001-11-22T01:41:01Z")
OOPS My bad, I was thinking of Cleveland before the formation of the NFL in that post. The one championship/no superbowl was from 1964: The Browns won the division title with a 52-20 victory over the Giants and captured the NFL championship with a 27-0 win over the Colts. Once again, my bad. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2001, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/50 "2001-11-23T14:18:11Z")
0-10 Six left to go. What a close one. I think Detroit is the new heart attack team over Chicago for this year. The past six games have been within a touchdown, yet each week Detroit comes up big in the clutch. Rarely, have I seen a team with so much heart be able to pull off the big ones in order to reach perfection. To think, Detroit actually had a chance to win or tie at the end of the game for six weeks but still fail is something glorious to behold. I’m on this bandwagon all the way now. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2001, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/51 "2001-11-23T20:53:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Milossarian \* > I don’t think you are appropriately in awe of a team that will lose within 7 points of whatever type of game the opponent wants to play. > > Only scoring 20? We’ll score 17. > > Scoring 45? We’ll score 38. Scoring 29? The Lions will score 27. Ya nailed that one, Milo! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/52 "2001-12-03T05:12:25Z")
0-11 Five left to go. I’m getting more and more depressed with each game instead of happier. I thought perfection might cheer me up but to see how hard they’re trying and how close the games are I’m beginning to want them to win. Nobody should ever have to suffer an 0-16 season. ---
**Author:** ![Kamikazee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Kamikazee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamikazee)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/53 "2001-12-03T13:48:42Z")
Their Q-B is out for the season. Any opinion if this will help or hurt? They were so close AGAIN!! Shanked the field goal AGAIN!! ---
**Author:** ![mrblue92](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@mrblue92](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrblue92)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2001, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817/54 "2001-12-03T18:52:29Z")
"Detroit Lions football practice was delayed today for two hours. One of the players, while on his way to the locker room, happened to look down and notice a suspicious-looking, unknown white powdery substance on the practice field. Head Coach immediately suspended practice while the FBI was called in to investigate. "After a complete field analysis, the FBI determined that the white substance unknown to the players was the goal line. “Practice was resumed when FBI Special Agents decided that the team would not be likely to encounter the substance again.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-anybody-reach-0-16-this-year/84817.md?page=2)